AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] German radiophobia
Muckerheide, James
jimm at WPI.EDU
Fri Oct 14 12:32:11 CDT 2005
Rainer, and all,
Coincidentally: Here is Phlugbeil in Der Spiegel!? :-)
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,379727,00.html
Regards, Jim Muckerheide
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of Rainer.Facius at dlr.de
>
> Franz:
>
> I have no problems with your classification of DER SPIEGEL's style as
> "schnoddrig" (brash), which I dislike as much as you apparently do.
> Therefore I regret to have left the impression of hailing it.
>
> Yet, rarely have I seen its factual claims refuted by competitors (or by
> political or economic reality for that matter). Regarding the Gomel
> article, they quoted as warrantor the president of the Society of
> Radiation Protection, Dr. S. Pflugbeil!
>
> So, I would invite you to quote influential German or Austrian or European
> news media (be it papers or TV programs) which oppose the LNT-fuelled
> radiophobia. In Germany I might have also quoted from the leftist
> FRANKFURTER RUNDSCHAU as well as from the conservative DIE WELT, which
> like the rest (even STIFTUNG WARENTEST) and unanimously with TV programs
> perpetuate this lunacy (verstrahlte Molke, verstrahlte Pilze, verstrahlte
> Patienten, verstrahlte Piloten, verstrahlte Polizisten, verstrahlte
> Soldaten, verstrahlte Transportbehälter (CASTOR), verstrahlte Häuser
> (Radon), verstrahltes Niemandsland, verstrahlte ...).
>
> Among others, air crew union representatives cherish to present us such
> quotations when we try to educate them.
>
> Respectfully, Rainer
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: Franz Schönhofer [mailto:franz.schoenhofer at gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Do 13.10.2005 23:03
> An: John Jacobus
> Cc: Facius, Rainer; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] German radiophobia
>
>
>
> RADSAFErs,
>
> Being not German but Austrian I warn everybody on this list to take
> Rainers messages (not only on this topic) as representative for Europe.
> They are not.
>
> Der Spiegel (The Mirror) is one of the worst and most obscene publications
> I know - pseudo intellectual, dishonest, directed to those who are
> flattered by being addressed as the "intellectual elite". Read the self
> description as "the most influentual bla, bla, bla", which obviously is
> designed for customers to advertise in this journal. Sensationalism a la
> intellectual. Everything on radiation matters in this magazine is of
> course described in a pseudo intellectual style, but it is nothing but
> nonsense, wrong, distorted and presented in a language I cannot describe
> in English - in German it would be "schnoddrig" - one of the worst
> expression one can use for a writing style in my opinion.
>
> Rainer, you have disqualified yourself by hailing "Der Spiegel". Now I
> understand better some of your recent comments and I cannot take them
> serious.
>
> Franz
>
>
>
> 2005/10/13, John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>:
>
> Rainer,
>
> I will have to agree with you on that point. I have
> been doing it for about five years full-time, and
> off-and-on over the last 30 years. I am still
> plugging away at the wall of anti-nuclear everything
> out there.
>
> --- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
>
> > John:
> >
> > Once or twice a year a seminar lecture can hardly
> > compete with twice a month a news magazine or a TV
> > program claiming the opposite - unless your audience
> > invests sufficient energy to find out for
> > themselves. :-(
> >
> > Best regards, Rainer
> >
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++
> On Oct. 5, 1947, in the first televised White House address,
> President Truman asked Americans to refrain from eating meat on Tuesdays
> and poultry on Thursdays to help stockpile grain for starving people in
> Europe.
>
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
>
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