AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] Chernobyl's Reduced Impact

[John Jacobus]

Howard,
You missed the point.  But that is not unusual.  

Would you have recommended that the Japanese evacuate
during the bombings of WWII because the residual
activity would be < 10 rem?

--- howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:

> John and all,
> Will LNT fears (cancer risk with <10rem) increase
> panic? 
> With a dirty bomb in DC, could it cause stampede, as
> fear did in Baghdad?
> Can education and Nukalerts prevent disaster 
> by reassurance of no harm unless exposed to that
> level for >X hours or days?
>  
> "Fear itself, is our greatest fear" (or something
> like that from FD Roosevelt)
> 
> Howard Long
> 
> John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Howard,
> At the time of the evacuation, I doubt the exposure
> levels were known or any projections were made. 
> 
> --- howard long wrote:
> 
> > Forced evacuation from Chernobyl areas with
> > <10rem/year greatly worsened the economic impact.
> So
> > LNT use by gov greatly worsens damage, as it would
> > after a dirty bomb in Washington, DC.
> > Howard Long
> > 
> > John Jacobus wrote:
> > Rainer,
> > Do you know of anyone who has a fear of chronic
> low
> > level ionizing radiation exposure? Do the current
> > "survivors" of Chernobyl fear chronic radiation
> > exposure? Or are there other social factors
> > involved,
> > like a depressed economy and an authorian
> government
> > that does not care for the welfare of its people.
> I
> > believe that a government is best judged by how it
> > treats the least powerful citizens. 
> > 
> > I certainly believe that the panic exceeded the
> > actual
> > risks, but I believe that is due to poor
> government
> > planning, education, and the distrust of its
> > citizens.
> > 
> > 
> > Was it this distrust that brought the Green
> parties
> > into power, or were there other factors, like
> > unemployment?
> > 
> > 
> > --- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
> > 
> > > John:
> > > 
> > > Man-made and natural disasters are REAL
> phenomena.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Fear of health risks from chronic low level
> > ionizing
> > > radiation is unreasonable and in case of
> Chernobyl
> > > was excessive (to the utmost) and hence meets
> the
> > > criterion for phobia (see below). Its spell on
> the
> > > minds of the afflicted victims derives mostly
> (in
> > my
> > > view entirely) from the ill-advised notion that
> > "any
> > > small amount of radiation entails some health
> > > detriment" which is the layman's version of the
> > LNT
> > > postulate. 
> > > 
> > > The extent of this lunacy reached - as so often
> -
> > > its ridiculous though relatively harmless
> pinnacle
> > > in Germany when some 8000 tons of "contaminated
> > > whey" (try "verstrahlte Molke" or
> "Strahlenmolke"
> > > in Google) were transported cross-country
> (Bremen
> > <
> > > -- > Nordrhein-Westfalen < -- > Niedersachsen <
> --
> > > > Bayern) to and fro under police protection,
> kept
> > > in safe interim custody in army depots until
> after
> > a
> > > decade it was - in part - 'decontaminated' in a
> > > "hazardous waste" combustion plant at costs of
> > more
> > > than 1000 DM per ton. The cows yielding the
> > original
> > > milk had been grazing on 'contaminated' Bavarian
> > > meadows in the weeks after the Chernobyl
> debacle.
> > If
> > > you are capable of reading German you might wish
> > to
> > > amuse yourself by checking the URLs below. Yet,
> > > since in Germany the putative aftermath of the
> > > Chernobyl disaster turned out to become the
> > > "founding myth" of the Green movement which
> > finally
> > > succeeded to terminate the legal use of nuclear
> > > power generation, it might not be too amusing to
> > > read these manifestations of radiophobia.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
/**********************************************************/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Diagnostic Criteria for "Phobia"
> > > (http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-an04.html
> > > ):
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Marked and persistent fear that is excessive or
> > > unreasonable, cued by the presence or
> anticipation
> > > of a specific object or situation"
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
/**********************************************************/
> > 
> > 
> > +++++++++++++++++++
> > "Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by a
> > new idea and never shrinks back to its original
> > proportion." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
> > 
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
> > e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
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> 
> +++++++++++++++++++
> "Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by a
> new idea and never shrinks back to its original
> proportion." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
> 
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
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"Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by a new idea and never shrinks back to its original proportion." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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