[ RadSafe ] Excess deaths

[howard long]

For 100 rad acute causing excess cancer and earlier deaths, 
I think Beir is correct. That is not "low dose", where there is 
much evidence for hormesis with  fewer cancers following 
10 rad acute (a whole body scan).
 
www.Nukalert.com  has booklet I reread while returning from DC, 
along with "Surviving a nuclear attack on Washington DC".
The booklet has extensive data that fits the research I have seen, 
including some on chronic radiation
 
Howard Long

Dale Boyce <daleboyce at charter.net> wrote:
Hi All,

There are no "excess deaths" everyone dies. Though I have in the past argued that LNT should not be used to estimate deaths due to radiation exposure, let me pose an argument from a different point of view.

Death due to stochastic effects has a vey long induction time, except perhaps for leukemia and other low occurance rate cancers. If someone is exposed to 1 Gy or 100 rad, BEIR whatever projects about 4% excess cancers. 

However, pick the mean age of the population. I could look it up, but let's say it is 35. Then factor in a 30+ year cancer induction period. I know leukemia is much faster, but the rate is also much lower. Then roughly 4% of the people exposed to 1 Gy would contract radiogenic cancer at around age 65, and die some years later (assuming the model).

Now let's apply this to a population of 1 million people. You would see (accepting BEIR for the moment) 40 thousand radiogenic cancers (a number widely reported as expected deaths from Chernobyl). However. the 40,000 need to be multiplied by the fraction of life lost to come up with a realistic "excess death" rate. So if 1 million were exposed at age 35 to 1 Gy and lost about 10% of their life expectancy, then the lost life expectancy would be about 4000 according to the LNT model.

Moreover, the exposed population was not exposed to this large of a dose. So the "excess deaths" would be much, much lower. 

I am not trying to make this email a treatise on how to estimate "excess deaths". I am merely throwing out a framework for discussion on how to realistically interpret BEIR and LNT without tossing it out completely. (Though I might like to).

Dale
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