[ RadSafe ] Re: Cameron's refutation of "Alara Does Work"

John Jacobus crispy_bird at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 21 11:50:05 CDT 2006


Congratulatons.  The link worked.

--- howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:

>
http://www.ecolo.org/documents/documents_in_english/low-dose-NSWS-shipyard.pdf
>    
>   is the most recent and I believe , the best
> representation of Cameron's work, presented by his
> long time assistant, Sponsler.
>    
>   Howard Long
> 
> John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   Rainer,
> I believe that he was asked to review the shipyard
> worker study due to his expertise in dosimetry. 
> 
> I will have to look through my docuements to find
> appropriate papers to reference or send. I will try
> and find specific referecnes that cite Dr. Cameron's
> conclusions about this study. Like you and others on
> this list, I do cannot spend all my time monitoring
> this list and reponding to every message. 
> 
> Nevertheless, the report itself can be found at
> http://cedr.lbl.gov/shipyard.pdf
> 
> An abstract of the report was published in Radiaton
> Research, 133, 126-127 (1993) or I can send a copy.
> 
> A review of the study was published in J Radiol
> Prot.,
> 2001 Dec; 21(4):400-3 or I can send a copy.
> 
> Unfortunately, I forsee that this will lead to
> another
> long debate on the LNT and hormesis. Nevertheless, I
> will try and restrict my input. I have a life beyond
> this list.
> 
> --- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
> 
> > John:
> > 
> > Please, could you provide some references to
> > published work where the debate counter Cameron's
> > arguments has been documented. 
> > 
> > Also, if I remember correctly, Cameron served on
> the
> > external referee board which closely supervised
> > Matanoski's nuclear shipyard study. I find it
> > difficult to imagine that he was called without
> > quite some professional standing also in
> > epidemiology - but of course I may err here.
> > 
> > Kind regards, Rainer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl im Auftrag von John
> > Jacobus
> > Gesendet: Do 20.04.2006 22:00
> > An: howard long; jjcohen at prodigy.net; Michael
> Bohan;
> > radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] In utero dose "Alara Does
> > Work" ?!!
> > 
> > 
> > Dr. Long,
> > The late Dr. Cameron's conclusions were debated
> and
> > argued many times. He was not a trained
> > epidemiologist. You are not a trained
> > epidemiologist,
> > although you claim to have studied to be one. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++
> "A scientist's aim in a discussion with his
> colleagues is not to persuade, but to clarify." 
> Leo Szilard
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> 
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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