[ RadSafe ] "German"/Criticism of Franz & others

Mon Jan 9 01:10:39 CST 2006

I love the smell of napalm in the morning...

Ok Dr. Farber...Reality check.  First, you can not assonate the character
when it does not exist (i.e. Franz).  He is a repugnant individual as I am
sure most folks on here think I am.  Fine...I can take it.  His continuous
and outrageous attacks on people over the years goes unchecked and I for one
am sick of it and started sometime ago telling him how I feel.  I won't stop
either.

As far as trying to reply to a German website or portal similar to this one,
I have no desire.  This is an English language site is it not?  If you can't
speak it...don't post it is my motto.  Congratulations on your study of
German (a whole 24 semester hours...WOW)...I'm sure you have made many an
inroad as a result of that mastery. You mention professionalism, talk to
Franz about that.  I tried to keep my personal words to him just that
...personal.  HE chose to make them public...but yet I see no repudiation
towards him.

Second, as far as the delete key goes, does your PC not have one?  I'm sure
if it does, you could have used it rather than reading the banter between me
and Franz and spewing self-righteous babble (Franz...that was the proper
form of the word you were looking for) meant to educate me or in some way
chastise me.  Nice try.  Better luck next time.

MD

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of parthasarathy k s
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:12 AM
To: farbersa at optonline.net; Syd H. Levine
Cc: 'RADSAFE'
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "German"/Criticism of Franz & others

Dear Dr.Farber,
  Thank you for your wise intervention. I hope that every one appreciates
your sentiments and desists from unprofessional messages.
  With warm regards
  K.S.Parthasarathy

farbersa at optonline.net wrote:
  Colleagues [?],

This whole thread has become outrageous and terribly unprofessional. Trading
personal insults of the worst sort back and forth is inexcusable. The most
recent post, by Syd Leving telling Franz what he might say or think about
the dimensions of the Holocause is obscene. This type of disingenuous guilt
by association and character assassination should be repudiated.

Those who criticize Franz for misuse of an English word ought to try writing
their posts in German or some non-native tongue and see how they fare. I
studied 6 semester [24 semester course hours] German language and literature
courses in college, and know what a difficult language it is to learn,
speak, and write. Even with that academic training, I would not dare to make
a post in German to a German speaking bulletin board because knowing I'd
make significant errors in usage, grammar, etc. I've also seen countless
posts by English speaking members of radsafe with incorrect choice of words,
words spelled wrong, and incorrect grammar. Should each and every one of
these English speaking, native individuals making these posts be criticized
as ignorant? 

BTW, of interest, after studying German in college I was able to converse
with and understand my grandmother who largely spoke Yiddish which has many
phrases very similar to words used in Hoch Deutsch.

Everyone should just take a breath, clear their minds, and stop trading
insults. Despite criticisms of some members of Radsafe for the tone or style
of their posts, let's not forget that even these posts often have
significant and meaningful technical content. If not, USE YOUR DELETE KEY.
Let's keep Radsafe restricted to technical content and defuse the sorry
ad-hominum attack situation which we've witnessed.

Stewart Farber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Syd H. Levine" 
Date: Sunday, January 8, 2006 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "German"

> Franz:
> 
> Of course I know you speak German. If you will reread my post, I 
> did not
> specifically mention Austria, but Europe in general. Do you deny that
> absent US help, you would be under the thumb of some bad people?
> Incidentally, my ancestors spoke Yiddish (mostly German) and many were
> killed for it in Europe. Next you will be telling me the six 
> million figure
> is exaggerated.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Franz Schönhofer" 
> To: "'Syd H. Levine'" ; "'RADSAFE'" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:12 AM
> Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] "German"
> 
> 
> Syd,
> 
> What do you think we speak in Austria? What do you think my mother 
> tongueis?
> 
> I assure you that I speak German fluently and I learnt it since I 
> was a
> baby. German is spoken not only in Germany and Austria, but also 
> in the
> largest part of Switzerland, in Northern Italy ("South Tyrol), in 
> certainareas in Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia, 
> Romania, Russia,
> Netherlands, Denmark and Belgium............. I
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