[ RadSafe ] What is happening to this list?

[Vernig, Peter G.]

Group,

We periodically get this type of complaint and I whole heartily agree
with it.  I also would say that a number of non anti list members seem
to have little to do but engage in endless and pointless arguments with
these people.  The sole reason that I maintain my membership is that in
the past, I have found, when I encounter a question outside of my
training or experience somebody on the Radsafe list, invented it,
developed it, decommissioned it, buried it, or worked on it extensively
and could tell me more about it than I ever really needed to know.

I use my delete key liberally, deleting >90% of messages without reading
them.  Of the remaining 10% I probably delete 75% after reading a line
or two.

Sadly it seems to me that the experts that invented, buried, etc. have
either fled the list or do not see the questions they could provide
valuable insight into through all the equine excrement.

Any opinions in this e-mail are solely those of the author, and are not
represented as those of the VA Eastern Colorado HCS, the Dept. of
Veterans Affairs, or the US Government.

Peter G. Vernig, Radiation Safety Officer, MS-115, VA Eastern Colorado
Health Care System, 1055 Clermont St. Denver, CO 80220,
peter.vernig at med.va.gov, Phone= 303.399.8020 x2447; Fax = 303.393.5026,
alternate fax, 303.393.5248

"...whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable, if anything is found to be excellent or praiseworthy, let
your mind dwell on these things."

Paul of Tarsus
-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Patrick Muldoon
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:29 PM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] What is happening to this list?


Can someone explain to me why our wacky friends from the 
"anti everything we do" side of the house are allowed on 
this list? I subscribe to this list as a professional 
information resource and lately it's filled with whiney 
psuedo-science garbage. I'm glad I also subscribe to the 
AIHA list so I can read information that actually pertains 
to my work. I think someone on the list once commented 
that answering these people was like wrestling with a pig 
- the pig likes it and you just get dirty. I agree. These 
discussions will accomplish absolutely nothing. They have 
long ago closed their minds to actual facts and comment on 
this list only to satisfy some childish need for feeling 
important. They are like the kid in the back of a high 
school classroom who continually asks stupid questions of 
the teacher trying to make the teacher look bad and 
themselves important.

Is anyone else as fed up as I am? I would really hate to 
have to leave the list because we as a group have allowed 
this irritating intrusion for so long. Am I in a minority 
when I think these discussions are best taken to a 
political debate list?

Please, if you are one of the "anti" people, do not 
comment on this. I am not talking to you I'm talking about 
you. At this point I could care less what you have to say.

Patrick Muldoon, CHP
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