[ RadSafe ] DOE research thorough, but is it adequate to reassure the public

parthasarathy k s ksparth at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Jun 14 20:45:08 CDT 2006


Dear John
 
The DOE presentation summarizes the current status in low dose research. It appears that for specialists there is no reason to lose sleep on low dose effects. Reassuring the public may still be an onerous task.In the ultimate analysis, what we need is the latter.
 
K.S.Parthasarathy


----- Original Message ----
From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
To: radsafe <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Thursday, 15 June, 2006 1:59:53 AM
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Dose to Mae Keane may be kilorads!


Jim,
As you know, DOE has dropped lots of studies.  It has
not be given the necessary funds by Congress, so
things have to go.  This and other longevity studies
have and probably will be cut, because no one really
cares anymore. I am surprised that the Radiation
Effects Research Foundation has been able to survive
http://www.rerf.or.jp/top/healthe.htm.

I know you like to blame the LNT conspirators, but it
is never that simple.  I remember all the fuss about
the Naval Shipyard Worker Studies as being suppressed.
Found that study at http://cedr.lbl.gov/shipyard.pdf,
and others http://cedr.lbl.gov/.

Nevertheless, DOE is now funding low-dose radiation
studies, so you should be glad about that. 
http://www.eh.doe.gov/radiation/workshop2005/presentations/metting.pdf


--- "Muckerheide, Jim  (CDA)"
<Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us> wrote:

> No. "Suppressed" means "kill the program"
> (originally intended to be a
> lifespan study of this most exposed group) before
> the collection of data
> would kill the LNT.  DOE first stopped CHR from
> adding new people to the
> group, limiting statistical power, and then stopped
> the program from
> medical follow-up of people already in the program. 
> In recent years
> they have prevented an update of the SSN-based
> mortality data, limiting
> the knowledge of how long the dial painters are
> living and causes of
> death.
> 
> DOE later turned the program over to NIOSH to
> "decide" that it should
> not be funded because there is no future threat to
> workers of
> significant radium body burdens (but of course the
> majority of dial
> painters received very low doses, e.g., the WWII
> dial painters - which
> would have killed EPA's ability to limit drinking
> water to 5 pCi/L [4
> mrem/yr], etc.)
> 
> Regards, Jim Muckerheide
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl 
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf Of
> John Jacobus
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:21 PM
> > To: radsafe
> > Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Dose to Mae Keane may be
> kilorads!
> > 
> > 
> > Jim,
> > Obvously this was not suppressed very well as
> everyone
> > seems to know about it.  Maybe a better phase
> would be
> > "achived due to lack of funds."  Of course, it
> makes
> > better press when you can say that there is a
> > conspiracy to cover things up.  That is what the
> > anti-nuclear people do all the time.
> > 
> > --- "Muckerheide, Jim  (CDA)"
> > <Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us> wrote:
> > 
> > > Actually, the summary of the scientific studies
> is
> > > Bob Rowland's "Radium
> > > in Humans" pub'd by ANL, home of the terminated
> and
> > > suppressed Center
> > > for Human Radiobiology following Robley Evans'
> > > retirement in 1970.  See
> > > my msg to the group:
> > >
> http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/9907/msg00152.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This book lists every radium dial painter case
> > > followed by the CHR,
> > > suppressed by DOE starting after the 1983 Health
> > > Physics Supplement 1
> > > issue on the 1981 Lake Geneva WI int'l
> conference
> > > that confirmed the
> > > lack of adverse effects in studies in the U.S.
> and
> > > other countries.
> > > 
> > > (If you want to use our links to sources, change
> > > "cnts.wpi.edu" to
> > > "www.radscihealth.org"; in the urls.)
> > > 
> > > See also a summary by Bob Rowland (with a very
> > > interesting plot of all
> > > the dial painters by systemic intake vs. year of
> > > entry into the dial
> > > painting industry) at:
> > > http://www.rerowland.com/dial_painters.htm 
> > > 
> > > Regards, Jim Muckerheide
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 

+++++++++++++++++++
"You get a lot more authority when the workforce doesn't think it's amateur hour on the top floor."
GEN. MICHAEL V. HAYDEN, President Bush's nominee for C.I.A. director.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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