[ RadSafe ] Re: Cameron's refutation of "Alara Does Work"
Muckerheide, Jim (CDA)
Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us
Fri Jun 30 02:05:19 CDT 2006
This isn't right.
Our discussions with the Navy authorities for worker health said that family histories would in fact be a basis to preclude a worker from radiation work, but that this happened rarely, probably a few dozen times (out of 700,000 workers, 108,000 radiation workers).
They conclude that the few cases would have essentially no effect on the statistics.
Regards Jim Muckerheide
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl on behalf of John Jacobus
Sent: Thu 6/29/2006 5:41 PM
To: howard long; Rainer.Facius at dlr.de; jjcohen at prodigy.net; mike.bohan at yale.edu; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Cameron's refutation of "Alara Does Work"
As one one worked with medical records at one of the
Naval shipyards, all workers who were involved with
radiation exposure would have a screen physical.
Frequently, those who had relatives with cancers would
be excluded from work involving radiaion.
Yes, I would think that this would bias the data,
leading to a sicker cohort of not non-radaition
workers. That is why the study does not exhibit a
healthy worker effect, despite the conclusion of
Rainer, who is neither an epidemiologist nor has
access to the original data.
Of course, I doubt that this selection bias was taken
into account by Matanoski as she only had the records
but not the directives on worker selection.
--- howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
> Ranier, your careful review of the Boice commentary
> on Matanoski's presentation of the vast Nuclear
> Shipyard Study, confirms my belief that healthy
> worker effect cannot explain the 3 years of life
> apparently added by exposure of Gulf Coast workers
> to 0.5 rem extra.
> The only credible (although minor) healthy worker
> selection I have seen proposed, was here on Radsafe.
> It was that a doctor giving employment exams might
> unconsciously have directed persons of less vigorous
> health away from imagined hazards of radiation
> exposure, to otherwise identical work.
> Howard Long
> Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
> Dear John:
> Thank you for providing the Boice Jr. (2001) paper
> commenting on Matanoski's Nuclear Shipyard Study. I
> took some time to compare his remarks with the
> original report and therefore my reply is somewhat
> First of all my comparison leads me to conclude,
> that Boice delivered a very compressed but overall
> fair summary of Matanoski's report.
> Secondly, his assessment of the high general quality
> of Matanoski's work and report is in line with
> Sponsler and Camerons's (2005) evaluation.
> Boice does nowhere claim that the observed
> significantly lower total mortality of the >= 5 mSv
> nuclear as compared to the non-nuclear worker group
> is the result of bias.
> He addresses some points of concern without calling
> into question the principal quality of the results.
> Boice's concentration on leukaemia data - though
> understandable - is somewhat moot, given the small
> number of cases and indeed he does not draw any
> conclusions from discrepancies with his
> Regarding race, Boice states "It appears that race
> was not considered in the analysis which could be an
> important confounder for certain cancers". It is
> true that Matanoski could not stratify their data
> with respect to race since the personnel files did
> not contain this information. It is not true that
> this confounder was not considered. Mantoniski et
> al. discuss in quite some length this problem and
> present their reasons to conclude that their
> findings would not be seriously affected.
> An objection sometimes raised against the validity
> of Matanoski's study is the (apparent) absence of
> the healthy worker effect frequently seen in
> occupational studies. Boice also does state this
> absence without drawing the usual conclusion - most
> appropriately so.
> Although the literature does differentiate a dozen
> or so 'healthy worker effects' the bulk of this
> selection bias can be attributed to two mechanisms,
> (i) the "healthy worker hire effect" and the
> "healthy worker survivor effect". The first bias
> excludes potential workers whose illness prevents
> them from seeking or finding employment. The
> corresponding biased SMRs ususally scatter around
> 0.90 (90%) and hardly ever fall below 0.80.
> Furthermore this selection bias dilutes within the
> first years of employment. The "healthy worker
> survivor effect" results from "differential job
> migration" either into another less demanding
> occupation or out of the workforce altogether due to
> illness occurring during employment.
> Although the healthy worker hire effect is regularly
> invoked when radioepidemiological studies find
> massively lower cancer mortalities (and they usually
> do) to explain this discrepancy with expectations,
> this argument rarely exceeds the standing of an ad
> hoc explanation. So far I never have seen this
> 'explanation to be offered and then accompanied by
> an obviously mandatory discussion of which checks of
> employment medicals do have prognostic power to
> select against employers more likely to develop
> cancer than others.
> Regarding the healthy worker survivor effect I have
> so far not found quantitative data as to its typical
> size regarding non cancer diseases, but here too
> such arguments - where needed to explain too low
> radiogenic cancer mortalities - do never accompany
> its invocation with a proper discussion of what
> amount of mortality reduction might reasonably be
> ascribed to it. Apparently, "anything goes".
> Furthermore, since cancer is predominantly a disease
> of advanced age, the age dependence of the healthy
> worker survivor effect should be addressed too.
> Finally, the design of some radioepidemiological
> studies - such as the studies on European aircrew -
> excluded its influence altogether - which did not
> prevent some of the investigators to invoke it
> After all, the Matanoski study does exhibit the
> healthy worker effect for diseases were you would
> expect to see it, i.e., for mortality from diseases
> of circulatory system - the dominant single cause of
> mortality in the age of workforces. The diagram in
> the attached PDF-file (again available upon request
> if the moderator intercepts it) clearly demonstrates
> that the healthy worker effect is there as it
> properly should be. Regarding its absence from total
> cancer mortality, the diagram reveals enhanced
> mortality from cancers of the respiratory system as
> the cause. Matanoski's report as well as Boice's
> discussion appropriately invoke known workplace
> related agents which cause this enhanced cancer
> mortality which in turn masks the otherwise reduced
> mortality from other cancers.
> Therefore, the objection - by others than Boice - of
> a missing healthy worker effect is misplaced and
> In summary, none of the limitations as he enumerates
> them make Boice to conclude that the observed
> reduced cancer mortality can be explained as arising
> from bias.
> Boice's final 'overcautious' assessment "While the
> study is 'consistent' with no effect follow low-dose
> radiation exposures, the relatively small doses and
> narrow dose distribution limits interpretation."
> spells out the reason why personally I do hesitate
> to publicize the Matanoski data as a 'proof' for
> radiation hormesis.
> Nevertheless, your discarding these data altogether
> as irrelevant is neither backed by statements from
> Boice's paper that you kindly provided to me nor by
> their limitations - as they were properly spelled
> out by Matanoski et al. in the first hand.
> Kind regards, Rainer
"You get a lot more authority when the workforce doesn't think it's amateur hour on the top floor."
GEN. MICHAEL V. HAYDEN, President Bush's nominee for C.I.A. director.
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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