[ RadSafe ] Kansas to let nuclear plant guards "shoot to kill"

Vernig, Peter G. Peter.Vernig at va.gov
Fri Mar 24 11:16:24 CST 2006


John,

Those guards have good voices if they "...shout to kill". (;->
Sorry I couldn't resist.

My understanding of the rules FBI operates under is that if they shoot,
and governing when they shoot is that they always "shoot to kill"
shooting to wound the suspect is strictly from the movies.  The flip
side is if they shoot their weapon they should be able to justify the
use of lethal force.

Any opinions in this e-mail are solely those of the author, and are not
represented as those of the VA Eastern Colorado HCS, the Dept. of
Veterans Affairs, or the US Government.

Peter G. Vernig, Radiation Safety Officer, MS-115, VA Eastern Colorado
Health Care System, 1055 Clermont St. Denver, CO 80220,
peter.vernig at va.gov, Phone= 303.399.8020 x2447; Fax = 303.393.5026,
alternate fax, 303.393.5248

"...whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable, if anything is found to be excellent or praiseworthy, let
your mind dwell on these things."

Paul of Tarsus

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of John Jacobus
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:02 AM
To: John_Rich at fpl.com; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Kansas to let nuclear plant guards "shoot to
kill"

Usually the security forces are trained and are to
follow "rules of engagement" just as the police do.
For example,

1.  Aim weapon and shout warning.

2.  No response, repeat warning.

3.  If weaponed aimed at you, shout to kill.


--- John_Rich at fpl.com wrote:

> Radsafers - - seems to me that . . . . . .
> 
> One of  the unintended consequences is that the
> worst thing that could
> happen is for security to critically wound a nuclear
> protester who went out
> to "test the security."  Shooting an unarmed
> civilian would be the media
> circus of the year.
> 
> On the other hand  . . ..
> 
> One of the unintended consequences is that the worst
> thing that could
> happen is for security NOT to critically wound a
> nuclear protester who went
> out to "test the security."   Allowing the antis to
> get close to the
> facility without serious shooting would be the media
> circus of the year,
> since it proves nuclear security doesn't work.
> 
> It sure seems like this is a no-win for the security
> force.
> 
> -just a thought-
> 
> John Rich
> 

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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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