[ RadSafe ] Re: References: Radiation induced immuneresponseDETERS spread of cancer

Sat Sep 9 11:30:05 CDT 2006

OK.

The dirty but honest truth is here.  :-)

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f146/uraniumminerals/?start=all

I live in an area where pegmatite rare-earth minerals
that contain the uranium decay series can be found. 
These are pictures of some of the specimens that I
have found.  The tan-colored counter is a Ludlum Model
19 that has been terriffic for locating specimens. 

Some mineral specimens may be found inside my house. 
Others are outside.  

If, in the future, I ever took a job where I were
issued dosimetry, I would tell them to please keep it
in the office while I am at home :-) .

In answer to J.J. Cohen - I really don't like the idea
of internal ingestion of anything that would be
radiation hormesis-related, because it is too easy to
go over on the dosage (as Eben Byers did ages ago).

I like better the idea of either a 'spa-type' setting
under health physics supervision using carefully
quantified dosages of x-rays, or an impregnated
metallic structure mounted high up on a wall but
shielded and mounted at a distance from human
occupants of the room.  

~Ruth

If anyone wants more pictures of minerals etc., I am
happy to send - 

--- jjcohen at prodigy.net wrote:

> John, Syd et al,
>     Perhaps you may recall a string on this same
> topic on radsafe a few
> years ago. I believe I had made the soundest
> suggestion on how to administer
> supplementary radiation to radiation deficient
> people. I think that
> tritiated soft drinks might provide the most
> efficient and tasty method.
> Where can I go to pick up my Nobel prize :-?
> Jerry Cohen
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> To: "Syd H. Levine" <syd.levine at mindspring.com>;
> "radsafe"
> <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: References: Radiation
> induced
> immuneresponseDETERS spread of cancer
> 
> 
> > Syd,
> > I did not intend this to be an ad hominem
> argument.
> > Yes, there is certainly an answer to the arguement
> as
> > to whether those who advocate low-doses to the
> public
> > believe in what they say.  Dr. Long has indicated
> that
> > he was wearing a belt of welding rods, and has
> stored
> > bags of KI, used for deicing, in his office.  Ted
> > Rockwell said that he goes to radon mines.  Dr.
> Long,
> > if I remember correctly, suggests that everyone
> get 1
> > to 10 rem of additional radiation every year.
> >
> > My questions is how are others who truely believe
> in
> > hormesis are taking their "poison."
> >
> > There is a difference between saying that a dental
> > x-ray is not a significant risk and advocation
> > radiation exposure to improve your health.  Do you
> > agree?
> >
> > --- "Syd H. Levine" <syd.levine at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > It is ad hominem argumentation on its face. 
> There
> > > is no answer to your
> > > question that would prove a thing.  For
> instance,
> > > how many folks would be
> > > able to relocate to a higher background area
> (job,
> > > family ties, family land,
> > > etc.)?  My guess is that proponents of radiation
> > > hormesis  do not worry too
> > > much about dental X-rays; is that the kind of
> answer
> > > that would convince you
> > > they mean what they say?  The bottom line is
> that it
> > > is dirty pool, and you
> > > know it.
> > >
> > > Syd H. Levine
> > > AnaLog Services, Inc.
> > > Phone:  (270) 276-5671
> > > Telefax:  (270) 276-5588
> > > E-mail:  analog at logwell.com
> > > Web URL:  www.logwell.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Syd H. Levine" <syd.levine at mindspring.com>;
> > > "radsafe"
> > > <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: References:
> Radiation
> > > induced immune
> > > responseDETERS spread of cancer
> > >
> > >
> > > > Syd,
> > > > How so?  If individuals make a claim of risk
> or
> > > > benefits, one would ask if they follow their
> own
> > > > advice.  According to Jim Muckerheide he
> > > challenged
> > > > the committee that reported on the risks of
> radon
> > > in
> > > > the home if the members themselves had radon
> > > testing
> > > > done in their homes.
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I have not worried about my
> exposures
> > > to
> > > > low doses of ionining radiaton. I fact, I
> turned
> > > in my
> > > > doimeter several years ago as my exposures
> never
> > > > exceeded 100 mrem in a year.  Actually, I
> think
> > > that
> > > > the total was not even 100 mrem in five years.
> > > >
> > > > You may not like my position or comments, but
> how
> > > is
> > > > the question inappropriate?  If you think
> > > radiation
> > > > exposure is beneficial, what are you doing to
> > > improve
> > > > your health?
> > > >
> > > > --- "Syd H. Levine"
> <syd.levine at mindspring.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > 2.  If radiation is so beneficial, what
> have
> > > Drs.
> > > >> > Pollycove and Feinendigan done to enhance
> their
> > > >> > radiation exposures?  Have they moved to
> areas
> > > >> where
> > > >> > there is more background radiation?
> > > >>
> > > >> Employing such a classic logical fallacy
> should
> > > be
> > > >> beneath you John.  I have
> > > >> seen you do this several times, and it is
> > > revealing
> > > >> as to the quality of
> > > >> your argumentation.
> > > >>
> >
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++
> > May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal
> subversion.
> > Dwight D. Eisenhower
> >
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
> > e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> >
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