[ RadSafe ] RADSAFE as of today officially closed

Monty Charles m.w.charles at bham.ac.uk
Sun Apr 1 07:21:22 CDT 2007

I support your sentiments.  I have valued the technical expertise of radsafers 
over the years and its demise is very sad. Please include me in any similar 
new venture that aims to keep to technical radiation protection issues.

Best regards

Monty Charles

On 1 Apr 2007 at 14:08, Radiant wrote:

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> Dear RadSaferS
> After fifteen years, RadSafe, an international e-mail list devoted
> to 
> the topic of radiation protection (Health Physics) has decided to
> close 
> down definitively for the following reasons:
> 1.	The content of the messages circulating has reached during 2007 a
> historical low as to relevance for radiation protection (11.54%)
> 2.	messages have been submitted only by a few (less than 1% of the
> subscribers have generated over 90% of the messages)
> 3.	these subscribers are including in their replies the full thread
> of 
> previous messages, so their name appears with a frequency, that has
> absolutely no relation with the relevance their contributions
> represent 
> for a discussion on radiation protection issues, thus heavily
> polluting 
> the Archive.
> 4.	insults, flames and heavy breathing have become quite frequent;
> these 
> messages are now recorded in the Archives on a HD-DVD (verba volant,
> scripta manent), they will not be destroyed as they might be useful
> for 
> future sociological studies as to behavioural patterns of a
> specialized 
> community during 15 years at the end of the XXth and beginning of
> the 
> XXIth century of our era.
> 5.	These `frequent´ archive polluters reply mostly without thinking,
> not 
> taking into account (or intentionally?) that there is a community of
> about 3000 RadSaferS out there. The game seems to be "Why don´t you?
> Yes 
> but ...", first you ask for help with a problem then, you shoot down
> every 
> possible suggestion..... Some are suffering of an acute form of
> RadSafe 
> neurosis. The good practice of trying to place oneself somehow in
> the 
> role of the recipient in order to improve message clarity has almost
> completely been abandoned.
> Thanks go to all those, who have submitted questions and provided 
> answers which have helped improving common understanding and have 
> provided scientific / technical responses to key issues.
> No thanks go to Archive polluters and those who have expressed
> opinions 
> we would qualify of `stalinistic-talibanistic´ nature. (science is
> about 
> resolving doubts and improving knowledge, not about expressing
> absolute 
> certainties). They have made RadSafe useless and have thus
> definitively 
> killed it.
> We intend to open a new mail-server soon, called the RADIANT. This
> will 
> include the full RadSafe list (you need to confirm your interest
> though) 
> excluding of course the names of those who have harmed RadSafe.
> With Regrets (sit tibi terra levis),
> The RadSafe Administration
> 2007-04-01
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Dr Monty Charles
School of Physics & Astronomy
The University of Birmingham
Birmingham B15 2TT
Tel 0121 414 3483

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