[ RadSafe ] RADSAFE as of today officially closed

Kubric at aol.com Kubric at aol.com
Sun Apr 1 10:34:43 CDT 2007

Please include me in the new RADIANT radiation safety  list.  Despite the 
problems with RadSafe I found it to be invaluable and  absolutely necessary to my 
job as a health physicist and RSO.
Yours for a safe radiological environment,

J. Carl  Kee
Radiation Safety Officer
Texas License No. L05515
KI4U, Inc.
212  Oil Patch Lane
Gonzales, Texas 78629
(830) 672-8734
web site,  ki4u.com

In a message dated 4/1/2007 7:11:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
radiation at noos.fr writes:

Dear  RadSaferS

After fifteen years, RadSafe, an international e-mail list  devoted to 
the topic of radiation protection (Health Physics) has decided  to close 
down definitively for the following reasons:

1.   The content of the messages circulating has reached during 2007 a  
historical low as to relevance for radiation protection  (11.54%)
2.    messages have been submitted only by a few (less  than 1% of the 
subscribers have generated over 90% of the  messages)
3.    these subscribers are including in their replies  the full thread of 
previous messages, so their name appears with a  frequency, that has 
absolutely no relation with the relevance their  contributions represent 
for a discussion on radiation protection issues,  thus heavily polluting 
the Archive.
4.    insults, flames and  heavy breathing have become quite frequent; these 
messages are now  recorded in the Archives on a HD-DVD (verba volant, 
scripta manent), they  will not be destroyed as they might be useful for 
future sociological  studies as to behavioural patterns of a specialized 
community during 15  years at the end of the XXth and beginning of the 
XXIth century of our  era.
5.    These ‘frequent’ archive polluters reply mostly  without thinking, not 
taking into account (or intentionally?) that there  is a community of 
about 3000 RadSaferS out there. The game seems to be  “Why don’t you? Yes 
but …”, first you ask for help with a problem then,  you shoot down every 
possible suggestion….. Some are suffering of an acute  form of RadSafe 
neurosis. The good practice of trying to place oneself  somehow in the 
role of the recipient in order to improve message clarity  has almost 
completely been abandoned.

Thanks go to all those, who  have submitted questions and provided 
answers which have helped improving  common understanding and have 
provided scientific / technical responses to  key issues.

No thanks go to Archive polluters and those who have  expressed opinions 
we would qualify of ‘stalinistic-talibanistic’ nature.  (science is about 
resolving doubts and improving knowledge, not about  expressing absolute 
certainties). They have made RadSafe useless and have  thus definitively 
killed it.

We intend to open a new mail-server  soon, called the RADIANT. This will 
include the full RadSafe list (you  need to confirm your interest though) 
excluding of course the names of  those who have harmed RadSafe.

With Regrets (sit tibi terra  levis),

The RadSafe  Administration

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