[ RadSafe ] Re:Radiotheology: Understanding Hiroshima

Thu Aug 9 12:38:05 CDT 2007

You don't seem to understand radiotheology. Like the "immaculate conception" 
and the "burning bush" tenets in other religions, Hiroshima provides the 
fundamental basis establishing the truly evil nature of anything "nuclear", 
including nuclear power , and food irradiation. To the true believer, those 
who die of radiation-related injuries are far more dead than those blown up 
or burned by conventional munitions. Got it?    JJC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brennan, Mike (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>
To: "Peter Bossew" <peter.bossew at jrc.it>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] RE: [AMRSO] On This Day( NY Times) -Observationof 
Moment of Silence

There were far, far more than just two crimes; there were almost an infinite 
number of crimes, with most of them committed or ordered by those 
controlling the Japanese government.  There is no justification at all to 
believe that those committing the crimes would stop, short of such 
overwhelming force as to kill them or break Japan's ability to continue the 
War.  The resolve of the Western Allies (and the greed of the Soviet Union) 
was such that Japan was going to be defeated; the only question was at what 
cost.  The first bomb did not convince those in power.  Even after the 
second bomb there were men in the High Command who tried to intercept the 
Emperor's surrender message, as they were willing to fight to the last 
Japanese person they could control.

I have the deepest the citizens of Japan who had no control over their 
government, and who only wanted to raise their families in piece.  But while 
they were in some ways the victims of their leaders, they were also their 
enablers, providing the soldiers, making the weapons, unresistingly giving 
whatever was demanded of them.  They were also the eager supporters of the 
Japanese expansionist policy, especially in the early days, when the deaths 
of civilians happened in places like China and Singapore and the Philippines 
and New Guinea and Korea and...  Breaking their will to continue supporting 
the War was a necessary part of ending the War.

For those who wish to improve their understanding of the War in the Pacific, 
I strongly recommend "Japan at War: An Oral History", available at Amazon at 
http://www.amazon.com/Japan-at-War-Oral-History/dp/1565840399/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-0859248-4214836?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186676568&sr=8-1, 
and in most English language libraries.  The first hand accounts, most of 
them from ordinary civilians and lower rank military personnel, helped me to 
understand how tragic ALL of the War was, not just the two atomic bombings, 
and also how, without those bombings, Japanese might be on its way to being 
a dead language, and the Japanese culture crushed beyond recovery.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf 
Of Peter Bossew
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:42 AM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RE: [AMRSO] On This Day( NY Times) - Observationof 
Moment of Silence

One crime does not justify another.

pb

Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS) [E] wrote:
> Should we offer a moment of silence for all those Chinese and Asian
> civilians killed by the Japanese?
>
>
> -- John
> John P. Jacobus, MS, CHP
> Senior Health Physicist
> National Institutes of Health
> Division of Radiation Safety
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> Bethesda, MD 20892-6780
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Johnston, Thomas [mailto:Tom_Johnston at nymc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:55 AM
> To: Academic-Medical Radiation Safety Officers listserve;
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: [AMRSO] On This Day( NY Times) - Observation of Moment of
> Silence
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> On This Day - NY Times
>
> On Aug. 9, 1945, the United States exploded a nuclear device over
> Nagasaki, Japan, instantly killing an estimated 39,000 people.
>
> The explosion came three days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima.
>
>
>
> May we all observe a moment of silence.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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