[ RadSafe ] Disposal of non-functioning LSC and gamma counters

Inocencio, Ruben ruben.inocencio at roche.com
Wed Aug 15 18:27:29 CDT 2007


Isn't the manufacture required to take back the sources if the units are
decommissioned? I know that Perkin Elmer removed a Ba-133 source from an
LSC that was no longer working for us.

Ruben Inocencio


-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Perrero, Daren
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:13 PM
To: Johnston, Thomas; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Disposal of non-functioning LSC and gamma
counters

A better tactic may be that to advise them after June of '08 there will
be nowhere the internal RAM sources can be disposed and the researchers
should count on taking them with them when they reach emeritus status or
a leave for a better position elsewhere.  

Here's another tactic that was useful at the university where I worked.
We routinely arranged with the chair of the researcher's Department to
withhold the researchers' last paycheck as a 'deposit' towards clean up
and disposal costs if we saw them preparing to bolt....

We also had luck by approaching that particular department's
representative on the radiation safety committee and letting them know
of the issues and costs associated with their researchers hanging on to
these 'keepsakes'.

You could also ply them with the promise of any funds that are generated
from the sale/recycling of the surplus equipment would go back into
their research funds.  Probably won't be any, but you don't have to tell
them that up front....

The opinions expressed are mine, all mine.....
I'm with the government, I'm here to help you.
Daren Perrero
daren.perrero(a)illinois.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Johnston, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:21 AM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl; Academic-Medical Radiation Safety Officers
listserve
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Disposal of non-functioning LSC and gamma counters

Hello,

I am asking for your help.

Can anyone recommend a successful approach and convincing method of
getting researchers to let go of old, decrepit and non-functioning LSC's
and gamma counters?

One of my arguments makes an attempt to use logic and common sense, but
this does not always work.  Telling them that they will have more space
available when the counter is removed is not always successful.
Informing the scientist that the cost for source disposal will be more
next year than today is not persuasive enough.  And a common defense is
that the equipment is fine where it is and is not in anyone's way.

 

Is there a regulation or statute or Homeland Defense directive out there
that will support what I am trying to do?  That is, get rid of these old
counters and their sources.  I, (better yet, my employer) do not want
the liability of these 'orphaned' sources, etc. taking up space and my
time!

 

Suggestions, answers, workable solutions, please!  

Thank you all in advance for your time and assistance.

 

Tom

 

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