[ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect radiation has progressed "

Sun Aug 26 21:51:51 CDT 2007

Brent,
How many contingencies are you will to protect?  What
are you willing to give up in funding and freedom? 
The terrorist have won because we fear our own
society.

--- "ROGERS, Brent" <brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au> wrote:

> Franklin Roosevelt said "The only thing we have to
> fear is fear itself." 
> 
>  
> 
> I'm sure 3000 people cheerfully went to work one
> glorious late summer day in
> NYC thinking the exact same thing.
> 
>  
> 
> PS:  You answered my "most important question" with
> a question of your own.
> A new question, is not an answer.  I ask again:  If
> you were responsible for
> safety and security of Williamsport, would you be
> willing not to be prepared
> for that contingency?
> 
>  
> 
> Brent Rogers
> 
> Leader Commercial Radiation Safety Group
> 
> Australian Nuclear Science and Technology
> Organisation
> 
> PMB 1, Menai NSW 2234
> 
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> 
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> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Dapra [mailto:sjd at swcp.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 12:30 PM
> To: brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect
> radiation has progressed "
> 
>  
> 
> Aug. 20
> 
>         To answer what I consider to be the most
> important question, how
> many contingencies do you want to prepare for? 
> Shall each of us be assigned
> a policeman, or FBI agent, or BATF agent, or
> Homeland Security agent, or
> *someone*, to accompany us everywhere to make
> certain we don't blow someone
> up? 
> 
>         There is a problem with the business of
> guarding everyone:  "Sed
> quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"  ---  "But who is to
> guard the guards
> themselves?" 
> 
>         Franklin Roosevelt said "The only thing we
> have to fear is fear
> itself."  Thoreau said, "Nothing is to be so much
> feared as fear."  As a
> people and as a nation, we need to get a grip on
> ourselves.
> 
> Steven Dapra
> 
> All quotes are from Bartlett's Familiar Quotations,
> 16th edition.
> 
> 'Guarding the guards' --- Juvenal; p 109:3
> Roosevelt --- 648:18
> Thoreau --- 476:26
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:58 AM 8/21/07 +1000, ROGERS, Brent wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Steven
> 
> If a crackpot/terrorist with a strange combination
> of dislikes (abortion
> clinics and lesbians) is willing to blow up a bag of
> nails at an event
> related to neither of these activities, the Atlanta
> Olympics...  It's not a
> far stretch to think something similar involving
> radioactive material might
> occur at the Little League World Series.  That
> foolishness occurred 5 years
> before 9/11.
> 
> If you were responsible for safety and security of
> Williamsport, would you
> be willing not to be prepared for that contingency?
> 
> Brent Rogers
> Leader Commercial Radiation Safety Group
> Australian Nuclear Science and Technology
> Organisation
> PMB 1, Menai NSW 2234
> T +61 2 9717 3251
> F +61 2 9717 9266
> M +61 4 1723 1879 (0417 231 879)
> E brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au 
> www.ansto.gov.au <http://www.ansto.gov.au/> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Dapra [mailto:sjd at swcp.com
> <mailto:sjd at swcp.com> ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 11:40 AM
> To: Brian Rees; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect
> radiation has progressed "
> 
> Aug. 20
> 
>          I may (or may not) be willing to concede a
> small amount on this
> one.
> 
>          A little more to the point, why are people
> being screened when 
> they are going to a Little League World Series game?
>  Is the post-Sept. 11 
> paraonia so bad that our ostensible protectors
> believe terrorists (or 
> perhaps run of the mill crackpots) are going to be
> throwing around 'lethal 
> radioactive substances' at a Little League game? 
> Does anything think this 
> may be getting a little out of hand?  And if not,
> what *does* constitute 
> getting out of hand?
> 
> Steven Dapra
> 
> 
> At 10:14 AM 8/20/07 -0600, Brian Rees wrote:
> >Actually, I have been involved in personnel
> detections, and the people who 
> >ask the questions are polite and understanding and
> professional when 
> >they've been trained well, which is usually the
> case.  In addition, many 
> >people (I know this isn't ALWAYS the case!) are
> aware that they are 
> >slightly radioactive and may trigger detectors and
> be questioned.  Many of 
> >the people (patients) I've talked to are
> understanding, and in many cases 
> >pleased to see that there really are people doing
> this work.
> >
> >My own personal opinion and experience only...
> >Brian Rees
> >
> >
> >At 08:32 PM 8/19/2007, you wrote:
> >>Aug. 18
> >>
> >>         I should think this would be
> intimidating.  Youi're trying to 
> >> watch a baseball game and all of a sudden a bunch
> of gorillas packing 
> >> heat are standing over you asking  nosy personal
> question.  In this age 
> >> of post-Sept. 11 paranoia I doubt that the
> interrogators were very 
> >> congenial.  I wonder if any of them have wives?
> >>
> >>Steven Dapra
> >>sjd at swcp.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 07:58 PM 8/19/07 -0400, Jaro wrote:
> >>>Aviation Week & Space Technology
> >>>08/20/2007, page 26
> >>>Technology to detect radiation has progressed,
> says Army Lt. Gen. William
> >>>Webster, deputy commander of the U.S. Northern
> Command. During the most
> >>>recent Little League World Series in
> Williamsport, Pa., detectors picked
> up
> 
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"All of the old-timers knew that subprime mortgages were what we called neutron loans --  they killed the people and left the houses. . . .
"LOUIS S. BARNES, a partner at Boulder West, a mortgage banking firm.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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