AW: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags

[Franz Schönhofer]

Sorry, RADSAFErs, 

it is close to midnight in Austria. Sandy Perle seems to be on the same trip
I critizised - perceived risks not verified, violation of privacy by
displaying passengers naked. 

With other words, Sandy Perle has confirmed my arguments. Unfortunately he
has not confirmed or explained the involvement of his company into relevant
Home Land Security Projects. 

Best regards,

Framz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Sandy Perle [mailto:sandyfl at cox.net] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 23:51
An: Franz Schönhofer; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just
Bags

You confuse the issue. The article and discussion is solely about a dose of
10 microrem, as stated in the article, not my choice of SI or otherwise.

You have a habit of turning every discussion into one that focuses on the
USA and rest of the world. The article was about a dose and a doctor's
comment, and Stu asking if this doctor accepts or even understands other
risks. Nothing more and nothing less.


You say no perceived risk is no risk. If I recall, most non-middle east
terrorism occurs in Europe, and not in US. Traveling in Europe where in some
airports there is less security (not Frankfurt or Munich any more) perhaps
there is a correlation to the terrrism observed.

Again, the discussion is about dose, insignificant dose. If you want to talk
about privacy and other issues, that is your choice, but it has nothing to
do with the discussion.

As far as Cingular propaganda, I'll send whatever from wherever system I
have at the time.

As far as your last statement, how does stating that there is NO significant
dose equate to more stringent regulation, aned increased business!

If anything, your last comment is the most ridiculous comment. Not my
comments.

Sandy Perle

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-----Original Message-----
From: Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:27:20 
To:<sandyfl at cox.net>,"'stewart farber'"
<radproject at sbcglobal.net>,<radsafe at radlab.nl>
Subject: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags

This is sent from my personal computer (make unknown) via my Chello-UPS
account - could you please refrain from sending the "Blackberry - Cingular
Wireless" progaganda. 

ALARA does not know any "almost non-radiation dose". Forget it. You still
use the unit microrem, though you know, hopefully by my previous postings,
that this is used only by about a few percent of the world population. You
again forget that this is an international discussion forum. 

As I wanted to demonstrate by my mentioning of my flight itineraries, there
is no risk to be mitigated, when people like me and the rest of those flying
on the fully booked plane do not perceive it. And if there is no risk I do
not want to be exposed naked to whome so ever and I do not expect that
anybody, who is not affected by some US propaganda would like so. There are
other more decent methods to prevent smuggling of weapons etc. on
airplaines. If US citizens accept this privacy deprevation it is their
problem, but then the USA should not be concerned that tourism from foreign
countries has declined dramatically. Again I want to remind you, that this
list is an international one and not a US one.  

Your comments are ridiculous, they only try to ridicule persons who are
concerned about the ongoing attempts to undermine human rights. 

Everybody at RADSAFe should be aware that your company will and would profit
from tightened regulations. 

Franz
 

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Sandy Perle [mailto:sandyfl at cox.net] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 22:29
An: Franz Schönhofer; 'stewart farber'; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags

ALARA is alive and well in USA, to an extreme extent.

In this case, the extra dose, estimated to be 10 microrem is almost
non-radiation dose. The privacy aspects is an issue and has to be evaluated
against the risks trying to be mitigated. The article and Stu,s 0comments
are about the dose received, the doctor's comments, and had nothing to do
about the image resolution considerations.

I would be surprised that anyone considers this 10 microrem dose to be an
issue.

Sandy Perle

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