AW: [ RadSafe ] Asbury Park Press on Mangano's press conference

Sun Jun 17 16:21:52 CDT 2007

Stewart,

As usual I can only say that you are right at the point. Yes, the TFP is a
fraud, as well as the old Sternglass etc. claims have been frauds. I have
posted this on RADSAFE together with my arguments since years. Since a lot
of money, donations and grants are involved, the question is, whether this
is "only" a scientific fraud!

Additional extremely serious flaws are:

1) I hope that also in the USA as in Europe (am I now Eurocentric?)
discharges from nuclear installations are subject to extensive control -
from the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Arizona I know it for sure from
my 6 weeks stay at ASU in 1988. So these data should be available to any
part and could be used for calculations - if one only wanted to accept
facts. 

2) I still have not read about the way the Sr-90 should be incorporated into
baby teeth. This can only be done by ingestion of Sr-90. First of all the
emissions of Sr-90 from NPP's are negligible, so where is the source?
Secondly even if emissions occurred, one only needs to look into a food-shop
or a supermarket, where all the food comes from - hardly anything from the
vicinity! Even in our little Austria for instance milk is transported to
Vienna from all parts of Austria or Germany, not to talk about milk
products, cereals, vegetables and fruits, coming from all parts of Europe,
even Asia, Africa and America. 

3) When one employs celebrities to raise funds, then there is no science
involved.

Best regards,

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: stewart farber [mailto:radproject at sbcglobal.net] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juni 2007 21:28
An: radsafe at radlab.nl; 'Bjorn Cedervall'; Franz Schönhofer
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Asbury Park Press on Mangano's press conference

Hi all,
Without any doubt, the Tooth Fairy "Project" is a scientific fraud. Open air

testing of nuclear weapons, mostly by the US and the Soviets [with a small 
amount from China and a percent increase or so from the Chernobyl accident] 
put thousands of more times more Sr-90 into the global environment around 
each nuclear plant in the US, than each operating nuclear plant has ever 
released to its immediate environment. At its peak of deposition from bomb 
testing, Sr-90 totaled about 12 megaCuries in the Northern hemisphere, with 
an areal deposition of very roughly 50 millicuries/km^2 over the entire land

surface of the N. hemisphere.

Most importantly, the annual release of Sr-90 from  every single operating 
nuclear plants starting up in the 1960s to present has been vastly 
INSUFFICIENT to even keep the environmental inventory of Sr-90 constant in 
its vicinity since the radiological decay of the preexisting weapons test 
inventory deposited in each plant's offsite environment [a decay of about 
1.2 milliCuries at its peak per km^2 in the offsite terrestrial environment 
around it] was and is still larger by no less than a thousand times than any

release of Sr-90 from current nuclear  plant operations.

The Tooth Fairy project is laugable to any scientist with the most basic 
understanding of actual airborne Sr-90 radiation releases from nuclear 
plants [ fractions of a microCurie/year typically] and the behavior of 
residual environmental radioactivity from bomb tests [many millicuries 
residual per square kilometer].

Except for the tragic gullibility of a sadly, almost uniformly,  innumerate 
press, numerous celebs who are acting in ignorance of the facts on the 
issue,  and some legislatures which have given it some grants, the Tooth 
fairy project would be of no concern. That said, we cannot just ignore it 
when clever Tooth Fairy propagandists like Mangano, a second generation 
Sternglass wannabe,  hold press conferences in Trenton, the capital of the 
great state of New Jersey [as an aside: Franz, don't be too Eurocentric in 
dismissing things going on in the US]  making claims that are nothing but 
propaganda given the facts,  and  meant to sway public opinion against 
nuclear plant projects.

While on the subject of New Jersey it reminds me of an old joke.

Question: Why is it that Washington, DC has the most lawyers per capita, and

New Jersey has the most toxic waste dumps per capita?

Answer: Because New Jersey got first choice.

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Anyway Happy Father's Day to all the Dads on our list and best wishes,

Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
Consulting Scientist

Farber Technical Services
Bridgeport, CT 06604
[203] 441-8433 [office]
[203] 522-2817 [cell]
email: radproject at sbcglobal.net
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
To: "'Bjorn Cedervall'" <bcradsafers at hotmail.com>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] Asbury Park Press on Mangano's press conference

Here we go again!

The Asbury Park Press (how influential is this paper or I would rather
believe that it might be a very local one) presents an article on Mangano's
press conference at ???? (where? At Trenton?? - never heard of it).

This message is distributed by my old "friend and foe" Norman Cohen, whom I
years ago have tried via RADSAFE to explain the flaws of the Tooth Fairy
Project. Several people on RADSAFE even to northern Europe bite into that
lure and write (long) comments to RADSAFE, not to the Asbury Park Press, but
about the qualifications of Rosalie Bertell, which nobody of the public
cares about. They do not address the terrible flaws of the TFP.

What is this good for? The anti-everything's keep scientists busy with tiny
details and the scientists obviously accept and engage in it instead of
attacking the basic flaws and falsifications!!!

Best regards,

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag
von Bjorn Cedervall
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 15:53
An: radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Asbury Park Press on Mangano's press conference

If I recall correctly the thesis was done in Buffalo (some Catholic
University?).
The math (it was math) was a quite simple level. Some of her publications
were in the "wrong" journals - like one math article in some Canadian
Medicine
journal (I checked every article in two volumes of that and came to the
conclusion
that half of the articles were from the editorial board itself). I may be
able
to find some of that old RB material at home in some file - it was a lot of
"unusual" stuff (I am not at home at this moment of writing).

My personal reflection only,

Bjorn Cedervall   bcradsafers at hotmail.com
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