AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags
John Jacobus
crispy_bird at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 2 15:44:10 CST 2007
The problem is that this system will not detect
contraband if the person wants to smuggle a weapon
aboard a plane.
How do you think people smuggle things into jails?
They put them up their rectum. Backscatter x-rays
don't penetrate that deep.
--- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> Sky Marshalls in addition to technology. Sky
> Marshalls are downstream, and we need upstream
> detection. A Sky Marshall may be viable if a weapon
> is brandished, but would be uiseless with detonation
> of a passive device. We need to correlate all
> opportunities. For protection. If you talk with
> people in the UK, Tokyo or Madrid, as well as other
> areas, I think you'll hear a cry for more technology
> in security used, and not simply rely on human
> security (which often is minimal in results.
>
> Sandy
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:47:20
> To:sandyfl at cox.net, radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays
> Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags
>
> There may not be any 100% security, but there are
> wasys to waste 100% of your money and resources.
>
> I am saying that this system will probably do little
> to make us safer. I would feel safer with sky
> marshalls. I guess you keep missing that part of my
> message.
>
> Of course, if you are in the business of selling the
> government equipment, the more the better.
>
> --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > So your position is to throw up your hands and say
> > that nothing can improve security. I have
> repaetedly
> > said there is never a 100 percent conclusion. That
> > doesn't mean to give up. If you don't believe the
> > body scan is better than current ridiculous
> > detection, then we'll just disagree. I fly a lot,
> an
> > awful lot, and I would like every bag to be
> > inspected and every person scanned. I want to
> reduce
> > the human error. My life and others are within
> their
> > control.
> >
> > Sandy
> >
> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:05:12
> > To:sandyfl at cox.net, radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport
> X-Rays
> > Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags
> >
> > I am saying that this is probably a waste of
> money.
> > Obviously, you did not understand my comments on
> the
> > use of sky marshalls. Would any of the programs
> > have
> > prevented Timothy McVeigh? Do you think the
> > terrorist
> > of Sept. 11 would have found away around these
> > systems?
> >
> > Terrorism is not new, all of these devices are
> > flashy
> > and high-tech, but they do not address the root
> > causes
> > of why radical people commit terrorist acts. This
> > is
> > where our resources should be put, not sending
> > armies
> > all over the world, and tell the public this new
> > gadget will make us safer.
> >
> > We have low paid people operating high-tech
> > equipment.
> > I certainly do not feel any safer.
> >
> > --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > So, what is your bottom line point? Don't
> increase
> > > security, no profiling, no electronic checks, no
> > > hands-on checking, no body scan. What are you
> > really
> > > trying to say? If your point is don't do
> anything,
> > a
> > > very dangerous prospect.
> > >
> > > Sandy
> > >
> > > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:23:23
> > > To:Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net>,
> > radsafe at radlab.nl
> > > Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport
> > X-Rays
> > > Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags
> > >
> > > What enhanced security? Terrorist are so dumb
> > that
> > > cannot get around this type of technology? In
> the
> > > 1970s and 1980s we had sky marshalls.
> > >
> >
>
http://jobprofiles.monster.com/Content/job_content/JC_Military/JSC_PrivateSecurity/JOB_FederalAirMarshall/jobzilla_html?jobprofiles=1
> > > That seemed to stop planes being hijacked to
> Cuba.
> >
> > > Is
> > > there a lesson here? Low technology works well.
>
> > We
> > > are amoured with machines and technology,
> without
> > > looking at what works best.
> > >
> > > Yes, the terrorist have won. As we outspent the
> > > Soviet Union and won the Cold War, they are
> > forcing
> > > us
> > > to spend countless funds on equipment to give us
> > the
> > > sense of security.
> > >
> > > --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. There is never a 100% probability in
> > > > anything except taxes and
> > > > death! However, where technology can offer
> > > enhanced
> > > > security and peace of
> > > > mind, then it should be evaluated and adapted
> as
> > > > appropriate for the
> > > > circumstances at hand.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++
> > We must face the fact that the United States is
> > neither omnipotent or omniscient that we are
> only
> > 6 percent of the worlds population; that we
> cannot
> > impose our will upon the other 94 percent of
> > mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or
> reverse
> > each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an
> > American solution to every world problem.
> > -- John F. Kennedy
> >
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
> > e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> +++++++++++++++++++
> We must face the fact that the United States is
> neither omnipotent or omniscient that we are only
> 6 percent of the worlds population; that we cannot
> impose our will upon the other 94 percent of
> mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse
> each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an
> American solution to every world problem.
> -- John F. Kennedy
>
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
>
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+++++++++++++++++++
We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient that we are only 6 percent of the worlds population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.
-- John F. Kennedy
-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
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