[ RadSafe ] X-Rays Scan Bodies, Mr. Perles Nazi speak

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Fri Mar 2 17:54:37 CST 2007

Since I got tired of the subject I have not reacted to any message on that
subject since a long time, but what I yesterday read in the discussion
between John and Mr. Perle motivated me to plan to react tomorrow, because
what is distributed by Mr. Perle is just hairraising. But his two last
messages are so unacceptable that I write this comment now. All attempts to
intimitate me and ridicule me are in vain, because such a character like Mr.
Perle cannot insult me. John, you know that I always have esteemed your
contributions I understand (I do not understand questions of epidemiology
and similar ones). Now I have to congratulate you, because until now you are
obviously the only US-citizen on RADSAFE to speak out clearly against this
paranoid "safety thinking", which seems to be only used to intimitade
people, subject them to humiliation (been shown naked on screens) and to
undermine the human rights and of course to raise the profit of quite a few
companies claiming that they manufacture instruments and devices for
"safety". I know more than well, that these are not only my thoughts, but
these are the thoughts of many million US-citizens and influential groups.
Practically all of my US-friends and collegues are among them. 

So much now, but the main reason that I have not waited until tomorrow, is,
that Mr. Perle used the expression "sub-human" before and even insisted on
these words in his latest contribution. This is clearly Nazi-Speak - in
German "Untermenschen", a label given by Nazi-Germany to non-arian people
like all Slavs, including Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Czech, Slovenians,
Serbs, Montenegrinians etc. etc., the Romas (gypsies), Arabs and especially
Jews. (It is intersting that the Romas are genuine Arians.) I do not expect
that Mr. Perle has ever been to Auschwitz or Majdanek or any of the other
Nazi-extinction camps, where "sub-humans" were killed daily by the thousands
or rather tens of thousands like insects by using hydrogen cyanide. I have
been there and therefore I am more than allergic for such words.

Now I ask whether RADSAFE is the right place to use Nazi-speak. Another US
citizen has been banned many years ago from the list, because he was calling
an international organisation for "Gestapo". It seems that this expression
throws a light on Mr. Perles character. More light I'll shed on him and his
queer opinions tomorrow (like "he" wants to be safe on flights and therefore
everybody else has to undergo humiliating procedures, not raising at all
safety and security).

It is half past midnight and again I will go to sleep. The most recent
attempt to insult me by Mr. Perle on 15 Feb. is ridiculous: I will not take
an aspirin, because I take it everyday in the morning according to my
doctors advice. I do not take something called "Luvox". I do not even know
what it is, but this only confirms that Mr. Perle is of the opinion that
everybody in this world should know US-brandnames and in a broader view
succumb to any US interest and request. Since I might concede that Mr. Perle
might be aware, that an Austrian does not know "Luvox" I take the
alternative conclusion that he was writing this for the US-market of his

Again, John, my deepest respect. Mr. Perle, please never adress me
personally again. 

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag
von Sandy Perle
Gesendet: Freitag, 02. März 2007 23:18
An: John Jacobus; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just


Re-read my comment ... I said that the 9/11 were sub-human. They still are
in my opinion..


Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  

-----Original Message-----
From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:56:56 
To:Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net>, radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just

Wasn't the hijackings on Sept. 11 first thought to be
like kidnapping the plane to fly to another country? 
Again, you are framing the issue as if our current
round of terrorist is unique.  It is not.  Our
solution has certainly not changed the risks we face. 
We are just trying to build higher fences.

I would add that your comment that the 19 hijackers of
Sept 11 were not subhuman.  Maybe that is the problem
with Americans looking at the problems in the Middle
East and other areas.  They many not have shared your
beliefs, but your comments do remind me of the U.S.'s
view of the Japanese during WWII.  They were subhuman
also.  Times change.

--- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:

> John,
> One can't compare terrorism to the 60s where a
> person simply got on a plane
> with a gun where there was no security check
> performed. It wasn't until much
> later that metal detectors were implemented and
> x-ray checking of carry-on.
> Heck, wasn't that long ago that that checked bags
> were X-rayed. The
> terrorist of the 60s didn't want to kill themselves
> .. and that reason was
> also blown up on 9/11 where 19 sub-humans preferred
> to die along with the
> thousands of innocents that they murdered. You can't
> compare apples and
> oranges.
> Sandy
> Sandy Perle 
> Senior Vice President, Technical Operations 
> Global Dosimetry Solutions, Inc. 
> 2652 McGaw Avenue
> Irvine, CA 92614
> Tel: (949) 296-2306 / (888) 437-1714 Extension 2306 
> Tel: (949) 419-1000 Extension 2306
> Fax:(949) 296-1144
> Global Dosimetry Website: http://www.dosimetry.com/ 
> Personal Website: http://sandy-travels.com/ 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:23 AM
> To: Sandy Perle; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays
> Scan Bodies, Not Just
> Bags
> In the
> 1970s and 1980s we had sky marshalls. 
> That seemed to stop planes being hijacked to Cuba. 
> Is
> there a lesson here?  Low technology works well

“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or
omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we
cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot
right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be
an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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