[ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags

Sat Mar 3 20:37:05 CST 2007

Sandy,
And do you care how much these "layers" cost?  How
much for the next layer are you willing to pay, not
that you are one who really is bearing the cost?

In time, this terrorism with pass, and what legacy
will we leave the world?  Fortress America?

--- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Neill,
> 
> The interviews are a good practice. However I look
> at each technique as
> complimentary to another technique. Recall that
> Richard Reed walked through
> the interview process, and if he had tried to use a
> lighter instead of a
> match, that AA flight would have been blown to
> pieces over the Atlantic. We
> need multiple layers of security, recognizing that
> we will never stop a
> dedicated well-trained group from finally succeeding
> in implementing their
> reign of terror. That doesn't mean that because
> something won't stop 100% of
> the attempts, that we eliminate it's potential use.
> The body scanners will
> detect most weapons, but not all. The interview may
> catch many, but not all.
> We need better technology, but nothing will be
> full-proof. 
> 
> While I don't feel 100% safe getting on a 12 hour
> flight, I can assure you
> that I feel safer than I did 10 years ago, and
> better than I did 5 years
> ago. I hope to feel a lot safer in 5 years from now.
> Let's not throw the
> baby out with the bathwater. Let's continue to
> develop and implement new
> technologies to approach 100%, even though we will
> never get there. There
> will always be some risk. Let's keep minimizing it.
> 
> Sandy
> 
>
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> Sandy Perle 
> Senior Vice President, Technical Operations 
> Global Dosimetry Solutions, Inc. 
> 2652 McGaw Avenue
> Irvine, CA 92614
> 
> Tel: (949) 296-2306 / (888) 437-1714 Extension 2306 
> Tel: (949) 419-1000 Extension 2306
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> Global Dosimetry Website: http://www.dosimetry.com/ 
> Personal Website: http://sandy-travels.com/ 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neill Stanford
> [mailto:stanford at stanforddosimetry.com] 
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:49 PM
> To: sandyfl at cox.net; 'John Jacobus';
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan
> Bodies, Not Just Bags
> 
> None of the new technologies make me feel safer.
> Every new one inspires me
> to think of how easily motivated people could get
> around them. We remove our
> laptops but don't turn them on anymore. No one
> checks the piles of
> electronic stuff that many of us travel with: PDA's,
> battery packs,
> chargers, bags of dosimeters. We are limited to 3 oz
> bottles of liquid or
> gel but what is to stop a group from combining them
> once on board? These
> systems are all well-publicized and well-understood,
> clever bad guys know
> how to get around them.
> 
> What does make me feel safer, much safer, is the
> detailed personal interview
> at the gate that many European airports have
> implemented for flights to the
> USA. Similar to El Al's time tested techniques.
> Well-trained interviewers
> asking questions designed to catch you off guard,
> and observing reactions.
> Much more effective than the parroted "were you in
> possession of the bags
> since..."   
> 
> 
> Neill Stanford, CHP
> Stanford Dosimetry, LLC
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> (360) 527 2627
> (360) 715 1982 (fax)
> (360) 770 7778 (cell)
> www.stanforddosimetry.com
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
> Of Sandy Perle
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:18 PM
> To: John Jacobus; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays
> Scan Bodies, Not Just
> Bags
> 
> John,
> 
> Re-read my comment ... I said that the 9/11 were
> sub-human. They still are
> in my opinion..
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:56:56
> To:Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net>, radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays
> Scan Bodies, Not Just
> Bags
> 
> Wasn't the hijackings on Sept. 11 first thought to
> be like kidnapping the
> plane to fly to another country? 
> Again, you are framing the issue as if our current
> round of terrorist is
> unique.  It is not.  Our solution has certainly not
> changed the risks we
> face. 
> We are just trying to build higher fences.
> 
> I would add that your comment that the 19 hijackers
> of Sept 11 were not
> subhuman.  Maybe that is the problem with Americans
> looking at the problems
> in the Middle East and other areas.  They many not
> have shared your beliefs,
> but your comments do remind me of the U.S.'s view of
> the Japanese during
> WWII.  They were subhuman also.  Times change.
> 
> 
> --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > John,
> > 
> > One can't compare terrorism to the 60s where a
> person simply got on a 
> > plane with a gun where there was no security check
> performed. It 
> > wasn't until much later that metal detectors were
> implemented and 
> > x-ray checking of carry-on.
> > Heck, wasn't that long ago that that checked bags
> were X-rayed. The 
> > terrorist of the 60s didn't want to kill
> themselves .. and that reason 
> > was also blown up on 9/11 where 19 sub-humans
> preferred to die along 
> > with the thousands of innocents that they
> murdered. You can't compare 
> > apples and oranges.
> > 
> > Sandy
> > 
> >
>
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> > Sandy Perle
> > Senior Vice President, Technical Operations Global
> Dosimetry 
> > Solutions, Inc.
> > 2652 McGaw Avenue
> > Irvine, CA 92614
> >  
> > Tel: (949) 296-2306 / (888) 437-1714 Extension
> 2306
> > Tel: (949) 419-1000 Extension 2306
> > Fax:(949) 296-1144
> >  
> > Global Dosimetry Website:
> http://www.dosimetry.com/ Personal Website: 
> > http://sandy-travels.com/
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:23 AM
> > To: Sandy Perle; radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport
> X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not 
> > Just Bags
> > 
> > In the
> > 1970s and 1980s we had sky marshalls. 
> >
> 
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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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