[ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan Bodies, Not Just Bags

Sat Mar 3 21:55:49 CST 2007

Sandy,
And what additional protection does this system
provide?  It is a one airport, and not used by every
passenger or flight crew member.  It is a big PR stunt
to try and impress the public that the government is
doing something useful.

--- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:

> John, we do pay the bill. I have no problem paying a
> little more on every ticket I purchase. We disagree
> on how much protection is provided. I accept the new
> systems as being a positive step. Let's just say we
> disagree and leave it at that.
> 
> We can debate more when we're at NCRP next month.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:37:05 
> To:radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan
> Bodies, Not Just Bags
> 
> Sandy,
> And do you care how much these "layers" cost?  How
> much for the next layer are you willing to pay, not
> that you are one who really is bearing the cost?
> 
> In time, this terrorism with pass, and what legacy
> will we leave the world?  Fortress America?
> 
> --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Neill,
> > 
> > The interviews are a good practice. However I look
> > at each technique as
> > complimentary to another technique. Recall that
> > Richard Reed walked through
> > the interview process, and if he had tried to use
> a
> > lighter instead of a
> > match, that AA flight would have been blown to
> > pieces over the Atlantic. We
> > need multiple layers of security, recognizing that
> > we will never stop a
> > dedicated well-trained group from finally
> succeeding
> > in implementing their
> > reign of terror. That doesn't mean that because
> > something won't stop 100% of
> > the attempts, that we eliminate it's potential
> use.
> > The body scanners will
> > detect most weapons, but not all. The interview
> may
> > catch many, but not all.
> > We need better technology, but nothing will be
> > full-proof. 
> > 
> > While I don't feel 100% safe getting on a 12 hour
> > flight, I can assure you
> > that I feel safer than I did 10 years ago, and
> > better than I did 5 years
> > ago. I hope to feel a lot safer in 5 years from
> now.
> > Let's not throw the
> > baby out with the bathwater. Let's continue to
> > develop and implement new
> > technologies to approach 100%, even though we will
> > never get there. There
> > will always be some risk. Let's keep minimizing
> it.
> > 
> > Sandy
> > 
> >
>
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neill Stanford
> > [mailto:stanford at stanforddosimetry.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:49 PM
> > To: sandyfl at cox.net; 'John Jacobus';
> > radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] New Airport X-Rays Scan
> > Bodies, Not Just Bags
> > 
> > None of the new technologies make me feel safer.
> > Every new one inspires me
> > to think of how easily motivated people could get
> > around them. We remove our
> > laptops but don't turn them on anymore. No one
> > checks the piles of
> > electronic stuff that many of us travel with:
> PDA's,
> > battery packs,
> > chargers, bags of dosimeters. We are limited to 3
> oz
> > bottles of liquid or
> > gel but what is to stop a group from combining
> them
> > once on board? These
> > systems are all well-publicized and
> well-understood,
> > clever bad guys know
> > how to get around them.
> > 
> > What does make me feel safer, much safer, is the
> > detailed personal interview
> > at the gate that many European airports have
> > implemented for flights to the
> > USA. Similar to El Al's time tested techniques.
> > Well-trained interviewers
> > asking questions designed to catch you off guard,
> > and observing reactions.
> > Much more effective than the parroted "were you in
> > possession of the bags
> > since..."   
> > 
> > 
> > Neill Stanford, CHP
> > Stanford Dosimetry, LLC
> > ------------------------------------------
> > (360) 527 2627
> > (360) 715 1982 (fax)
> > (360) 770 7778 (cell)
> > www.stanforddosimetry.com
> > ------------------------------------------
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
> > Of Sandy Perle
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:18 PM
> > To: John Jacobus; radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport
> X-Rays
> > Scan Bodies, Not Just
> > Bags
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > Re-read my comment ... I said that the 9/11 were
> > sub-human. They still are
> > in my opinion..
> > 
> > Sandy
> > 
> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:56:56
> > To:Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net>,
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: RE: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] New Airport
> X-Rays
> > Scan Bodies, Not Just
> > Bags
> > 
> > Wasn't the hijackings on Sept. 11 first thought to
> > be like kidnapping the
> > plane to fly to another country? 
> > Again, you are framing the issue as if our current
> > round of terrorist is
> > unique.  It is not.  Our solution has certainly
> not
> > changed the risks we
> > face. 
> > We are just trying to build higher fences.
> > 
> > I would add that your comment that the 19
> hijackers
> > of Sept 11 were not
> > subhuman.  Maybe that is the problem with
> Americans
> > looking at the problems
> > in the Middle East and other areas.  They many not
> > have shared your beliefs,
> > but your comments do remind me of the U.S.'s view
> of
> > the Japanese during
> > WWII.  They were subhuman also.  Times change.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Sandy Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > John,
> > > 
> 
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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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