AW: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology / Nuclear Medicine
Rainer.Facius at dlr.de
Rainer.Facius at dlr.de
Mon Mar 12 08:47:47 CDT 2007
Very well said, John; also your preceding comment regarding the proper sources to consult.
Kind regards, Rainer
Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag von John Jacobus
Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2007 14:29
An: Diane Griffiths; Steven Dapra; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk,and working in Radiology / Nuclear Medicine
You may have to accept that fact that they may not want you accept ANY evidence that you present to them.
This appears to be a statistical cluster when rare event, two technologist out of xx get breast cancer.
Statistically, it can happen, like winning the lottery. But, now many times this CAN happen is rare.
You might want to ask them how many of their friends or relative who have not worked around radiation have breast cancer. They are probably both in their late 40s and early 50s, so the natural incidences of breast cancer should be evident. My wife made that comment that several of her friends had breast cancer. After looking at the issue from the natural incidence rate, it be came clear that this was to be expected.
I wish you luck on this. You are dealing with emotions that these technologists feel.
--- Diane Griffiths <dianegriffiths at comcast.net>
> Thanks y'all, you are giving me some more ideas to try and more areas
> to research.
> I gave them an extensive training packet with their yearly training
> last October that explained background radiation, natural radiation,
> even explained that K40 in the body is radioactive. I also gave them
> yearly background averages, as well as medical procedure averages.
> Told them about biological effects, and at what exposures they occured
> (and said it was XX times their exposures).
> In addition, I told them about time, distance, shielding. (To which
> they made me show that the Angio suite IS shielded by placing sources
> in there and demonstrating the geiger counter readings). I had a few
> articles on breast cancer risk to Nuclear Medicine techs and some of
> the studies some of you mentioned. (Then they tell me last week that
> they have never been trained. And argued that fact with me until I
> showed them the sign in sheet and training packet and then they all of
> a sudden
> They told me they wanted specific examples of if females in other
> hospitals working with radiation got breast cancer. (Even though the
> two female Nuclear Medicine techs have had no problems and have been
> in the field for 24 years each). At that point I compared their
> exposures to the Nuc Med techs.
> They said that they understood what I was telling them, but they were
> still scared. (Then after the meeting they told the Nuclear tech that
> my meeting with them did not help at all.)
> One nurse said it is like if two people got run over by a car on the
> same street and location. It is not the fact that the street is not
> safe, but they would be scared to cross at the same location cause
> they would probably get hurt at that location also.
> So what they told me they wanted was specific examples from other
> hospitals that less than 20% got breast cancer from working around
> radiation and they might feel better about it. They wanted me to call
> all the hospitals in town and get information on how many of the
> female techs got breast cancer.
> So any of you in hospitals have any female techs that got breast
> cancer, or didn't? Any numbers out there?
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