[ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
Dr. Khalid Aleissa
kaleissa at kacst.edu.sa
Sun Mar 18 15:07:47 CDT 2007
Although the topic is interesting but, I do not see any real relationship
between global warming and radiation protection?
Khalid
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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of John R Johnson
Sent: 18 March, 2007 09:34 م
To: Kai Kaletsch; Otto G. Raabe
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
Kai
I live in Canada also, and am concerned about global warming and the melting
of the polar "ice caps". Our house is over 100 m above sea level but houses
below us in Vancouver and in other cities on the three coasts are concerned
because they will be under water.
John
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kai Kaletsch" <eic at shaw.ca>
To: "Otto G. Raabe" <ograabe at ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
>I agree with what Otto said and I'm not particularly alarmed about global
>warming. Living in Canada, its a bit of a stretch to try to convince me
>that shorter, warmer winters are a bad thing.
>
> However, given that we all agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, I think it
> is a fair question to ask: How much would the temperature increase if we
> keep increasing our CO2 output at the current rate (assuming no change in
> solar activity etc)? Unfortunately, the global warming skeptics have not
> provided a quantitative answer. If the answer depends on inputs that we
> don't know, then give me a range of possibilities (and, if possible,
> probabilities).
>
> I don't like questions like: How much of our 0.2C temperature increase
> since 1940 is due to industrial CO2 releases?
>
> To some people, this implies that all individual contributing factors have
> to be less than 0.2C. Of course, this does not follow logically. You could
> have a 2.2C warming due to CO2, offset by a 0.2C cooling because of
> reduced solar activity (please correct me if I'm wrong, but, if I remember
> the graph correctly, the current level of solar activity is still less
> than the 1940 peak, while the current temperatures are higher) and a 1.8C
> cooling due to emissions that block sunlight. (For most of the time since
> the industrial revolution, we have emitted fairly little CO2 and lots of
> other pollution, like SO2 and particulate. In the west, we have only
> recently started to reduce these. Other places in the world are still
> emitting a lot of that stuff.)
>
> Regards,
> Kai
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Otto G. Raabe
> To: Blaine Howard ; Kai Kaletsch
> Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
>
>
> March 17, 2007
>
> According to MIT Professor Richard Lindzen, one of the National Research
> Council global warming panelist and lead author on the new UN report: "Our
> primary conclusion was that despite some knowledge and some agreement, the
> science is by no means settled. We are quite confident (1) that global
> mean temperature is about 0.5 degrees Celsius higher than a century ago;
> (2) that atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide have risen over the past two
> centuries; and (3) that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas whose increase
> is likely to warm the earth. But-- and I cannot stress this enough -- we
> are NOT in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to
> carbon dioxide or to forecast what the climate will be in the future."
>
> Unfortunately the press and those who wrote so-called "summaries" of the
> UN report did not understand or wanted to ignore how little is truly
> known! Sunspot activity does correlate almost perfectly with mean earth
> temperatures over the last 150 years, so it seems clear that it is
> unlikely that there is a meaningful anthropomorphic factor associated with
> the average temperature of the earth. Also, an increase of only 0.5
> degrees Celsius in 100 years is not alarming.
>
> Otto
>
>
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