[ RadSafe ] Wag the dog

Thu Feb 7 01:56:48 CST 2008

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The following THREAD IS CLOSED: re:[ RadSafe ] Wag the dog 

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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Mitchell Davis
Sent: donderdag 7 februari 2008 5:25
To: 'Steven Dapra'; 'RADSAFE'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Wag the dog

Steven:

Let me start by saying I am damn proud to have served my country and I
will damn well wave it around as I see fit.  You bleeding heart liberals
that hold the armed forces in contempt, sir (and I use that term
lightly), are quite despicable.  For any American to take the name of
the armed forces of this great country in vain in just plain heresy.
Were it not for them, you would not have the right to spew your vile
remarks.

I will not lower myself to trading barbs with you over Iraq.  Every one
of your hero Dem Senators agreed with the same intelligence seen by the
President.  My remarks were the assertion we, the United States of
America, obtain permission from the most corrupt body on the face of the
earth (UN) before taking actions to protect our interests is ludicrous.
For the idiot poet (Franz) or you for that matter to suggest that the US
has taken or caused more deaths in 5 years than Saddam did in 25 yrs is
well...treason.

As far as foreign aid...I make no distinctions as to the country of
origin of previously mentioned remarks.  You criticize...you get cut
off!!  So don't let your disdain for Egypt and Israel enter the debate.

As far as Franz being an asset to RadSafe, I'll let the RadSafe masses
decide that.  Perhaps if he is so special to you the two of you should
move in together.  Being a Registered Nurse, I do however, suggest you
both practice safe sex.

Mitchell Davis, RN, RRPT
Midland, Texas
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Steven Dapra
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:42 PM
To: 'RADSAFE'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Wag the dog

Feb. 6

         What a bunch of hooey.  Comments interspersed.

Steven Dapra

At 06:06 PM 2/6/08 -0600, Mitchell Davis wrote:
>Franz...on this one I can not be silent...
>
>You must have lost your mind.  First, FOX News provides the only fair 
>and balanced (yes...their slogan but yet true) evaluation of American 
>news and politics than any other news outlet in America.  If you want 
>the truth...watch it.  Considering I am not under educated and rarely
influenced
>I take immediate offence to your comment since it is on my TV all day.

>CNN close to the Bush administration?  That's almost the stupidest 
>thing I have EVER heard you say (notice I said "almost").  They are so 
>anti-Bush that even their owner admits it.

         I can't comment on Fox News or CNN, because I don't watch them.

>The United States of America needs no ones permission or "blessing" to 
>protect it's interests or citizens.  We are the most powerful and
benevolent
>nation in the world and have rescued more ass than Miami Vice.  For you

>and your ilk to suggest that we receive the blessing of a peon nation 
>such as yours to protect ourselves or the things our gov't deems 
>important is pure insanity and actually quite insulting.  If it were 
>not for the US, the French would be speaking German and you would be 
>wearing knee high black boots, a nice gray suit with a fancy insignia 
>on the upper sleeve shouting with your arm in the air to a lunatic 
>wearing the same outfit.  Actually Franz, if I had it my way, the next 
>country that criticized the US for anything, I would immediately cut 
>off ALL funding of any nature for a
period
>of one year.  No money...no food...no oil...no cars...no internet...no 
>condoms.  NOT A DAMN THING for a period of one year.  If they did it 
>again...five years.  Third strike and you're out...no aid of any kind 
>...EVER.  Think you would like that Franz?

         Invading Iraq did not protect US interests, nor did it protect
US citizens.  It has killed over 3000 US citizens though.  We may be the
most powerful nation, however might does not make right.  Your claim
that the French would be speaking German is rubbish and shows your
resounding ignorance about World War II.  After Stalingrad Hitler was
beaten, and both the Germans and the French might have ended up speaking
Russian.  That probably would have done nothing to upset the disciples
of FDR; nor would it have upset any of the sappy knee-jerk liberals who
so plagued this country in the 1960s and 1970s.

         I agree with you about cutting off foreign aid, but why not be
consistent and cut off *all* foreign aid?  You can start with cutting
off Egypt and Israel.  I doubt that Austria receives much US foreign
aid, and if it doesn't Austrians probably wouldn't care if their
(possibly) non-existent foreign aid came to an end.

>You really should review your history Franz.  Because if it were not 
>for
the
>United States of America (which I served proudly for 8 yrs), you and 
>your disgusting ilk would not exist.  Hey...that might not be such a
bad thing.

         Review your own history.  I think Franz is an asset to RADSAFE,
even when I don't like what he says.  Finally, you are not the only one
who has been in the service, so quit waving it around like it makes you
special or important.

Steven Dapra

>Mitchell Davis, RN, RRPT
>Midland, Texas
>THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[edit messages from Franz Schonhofer and Rick Urban]

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