[ RadSafe ] RE: WAG THE DOG (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Steven Dapra]

Feb. 9

         "That community is already in the process of dissolution where 
each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where 
nonconformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a 
mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, 
takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; 
where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we 
dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose."

Learned Hand
Speech to the Board of Regents, University of the State of New York, Oct. 
24, 1952)
(Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, Sixteenth Edition, 1992)



At 01:17 PM 2/9/08 -0600, garyi at trinityphysics.com wrote:
>No Steven, Doug is not correct and neither are you.  If political attacks 
>are to be allowed on
>the list, then defences of those attacks must also be allowed.  Mature 
>people may turn the
>other cheek once, even twice, but we are way past that.  At some point 
>even mature folks get
>tired of being slapped, so if someone is touchy there is a good reason for it.
>
>If you agree with Franz so much, why don't you and he go start another 
>listgroup?
>BushStinks, or EvilUSA, or maybe just WeSurrender!  There are so many here 
>on Radsafe
>that want to hear your Thoughts Political, but by staying here you deprive 
>the world at large of
>your deep insight.  So help them, give them a forum, a Voice.  Heck, 
>you're such a cogent
>commentator, you should take it on the road like Gore did.  You're too 
>talented to waste your
>time with a bunch of nuclear physicists.
>
>-Gary Isenhower
>
>On 8 Feb 2008 at 20:03, Steven Dapra wrote:
>
> > Feb. 8
> >
> >          Doug is correct.  There are some listmembers --- and much
> >          more to
> > the point --- a *lot* of Americans who are too touchy about criticism
> > of the United States.  To reiterate what Doug said, this is one of the
> > reasons the US's reputation has suffered in recent years.  Ken
> > Peterson is also correct (see below) in what he said about the
> > significance (or lack thereof) of being in the armed services.
> >
> >          I say this as someone who was born and raised in the USA and
> >          has
> > lived here for over 50 years; and as someone who was in the service.
> > I did not get drafted either.  I enlisted.
> >
> > Steven Dapra
> >
>
>
>Regards,
>Gary Isenhower, M.S.
>713-690-3020