Fw: [ RadSafe ] Concerns Could Reduce Radiation Sensor Deployment

Mon Sep 8 10:27:15 CDT 2008

Yes, Doug: but HPs work for the manufacturers and even the lobbyists.  They
also work in the government agencies that evaluate the manufacturers'
proposals.  Some are even on legislative staffs.  Plenty of people who knew
better pushed this crap.

Clayton Bradt
dutchbradt at hughes.net

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Clayton: I am in agreement with Barb, but I don't think it was really HP's
who pushed this, but rather the people trolling for fat government
contracts
(lobbyists and manufacturers - and maybe the odd research lab looking for
funding....)

Regards
Doug
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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
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Of Clayton J Bradt
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Concerns Could Reduce Radiation Sensor Deployment

Yes, Barb. Once again we are in agreement.  Those of us who tried to
explain the futility of trying to detect and identify RDDs and nukes at the
borders were drowned out by other (otherwise competent ) HPs who saw a
chance to make a buck (or promote their careers) by dangling the
possibility of a technological
silver bullet that would make everybody safe.  Of course they didn't put it
exactly that way, but they shaped the message so that the politicians
thought that's what they heard.

This is nothing knew. It's the way the world works. But let's be clear that
those on this list who promoted this an other related boondoggles, and most
of the rest who simply kept silent, bear responsibility for it.

Clayton J. Bradt
duchtbradt at hughes.net

             BLHamrick at aol.com

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                                       Reduce Radiation Sensor Deployment

In a message dated 9/5/2008 6:23:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cjb01 at health.state.ny.us writes:
Any competent- and honest HP- could have foretold this.  There is no
technological solution to nuclear terrorism.
As long as there are vendors and careerists willing to tell lawmakers and
political apparatchiks what they want to hear,
the warnings of those of us who know better will continue to be drowned
out.

Shame on all those who made a buck from this boondoggle!

Clayton,

Actually, a lot of competent HPs did tell them this, but they were
determined not to listen.  We are living Orwell's "1984," with the endless
shifting "war on terror," and the use of fear to control, but it's like no
one ever read the book.

And, to avoid sounding partisan about this, democrats are no better than
the republican fearmongers.  In California (controlled by a democratic
legislature) this session they passed a bill to do biomonitoring (or some
such nonsense) for carcinogens, at a cost of God knows what (because their
fiscal assessments are generally worthless).  HELLO!  The five most
significant cancer promoters/indicators are 1) smoking, 2) drinking, 3)
diet, 4) lack of exercise, and 5) genetics.  The contribution of
environmental insults is nothing in the big scheme of things.  OTOH, I
don't want them to get anymore crazy ideas about controlling our personal
lives.  I would prefer if I could just continue to smoke, drink, eat some
potato chips, and lay on my couch, without the government interfering (I
can't do anything about my bad genes).  And, we're all going to die of
something one day.  So, let's just accept that, and move on.

Seriously.  Could we stop with the hysteria about death?  Yes, I'm afraid
of being in a plane commandeered by terrorists, and yes, I'm afraid of
dying a slow painful death from cancer.  I just think that, in the end,
since we're all going to die anyway, it might be better to spend our
capital frugally on improving the quality of all our lives, rather than
spending it recklessly to try to extend the quantity, which will in the end
be finite no matter what we do.  But, politically, saying you're against
death, in whatever form, is a winning ticket.

This is the problem we have with radiation.  In the public's mind:
Radiation = Death.  What they don't get is that: Chocolate = Death, Beer =
Death, Grandma's faulty genes = Death, Laying around watching TV all day =
Death, and, in the end, even exercising and eating right = Death, because
we all die.

Just my two cents.

Barbara L. Hamrick, Esq., CHP

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