[ RadSafe ] Concerns Could Reduce Radiation Sensor Deployment
Brennan, Mike (DOH)
Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV
Mon Sep 8 11:45:05 CDT 2008
Oh, I don't know if they are on legislative staffs. Political types prefer lawyers to techie as people to advise them, as lawyers are better at telling the legislator why their preconception is right.
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Yes, Doug: but HPs work for the manufacturers and even the lobbyists. They also work in the government agencies that evaluate the manufacturers'
proposals. Some are even on legislative staffs. Plenty of people who knew better pushed this crap.
Clayton Bradt
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Clayton: I am in agreement with Barb, but I don't think it was really HP's who pushed this, but rather the people trolling for fat government contracts (lobbyists and manufacturers - and maybe the odd research lab looking for
funding....)
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Doug
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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf Of Clayton J Bradt
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Yes, Barb. Once again we are in agreement. Those of us who tried to explain the futility of trying to detect and identify RDDs and nukes at the borders were drowned out by other (otherwise competent ) HPs who saw a chance to make a buck (or promote their careers) by dangling the possibility of a technological silver bullet that would make everybody safe. Of course they didn't put it exactly that way, but they shaped the message so that the politicians thought that's what they heard.
This is nothing knew. It's the way the world works. But let's be clear that those on this list who promoted this an other related boondoggles, and most of the rest who simply kept silent, bear responsibility for it.
Clayton J. Bradt
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In a message dated 9/5/2008 6:23:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cjb01 at health.state.ny.us writes:
Any competent- and honest HP- could have foretold this. There is no technological solution to nuclear terrorism.
As long as there are vendors and careerists willing to tell lawmakers and political apparatchiks what they want to hear, the warnings of those of us who know better will continue to be drowned out.
Shame on all those who made a buck from this boondoggle!
Clayton,
Actually, a lot of competent HPs did tell them this, but they were determined not to listen. We are living Orwell's "1984," with the endless shifting "war on terror," and the use of fear to control, but it's like no one ever read the book.
And, to avoid sounding partisan about this, democrats are no better than the republican fearmongers. In California (controlled by a democratic
legislature) this session they passed a bill to do biomonitoring (or some such nonsense) for carcinogens, at a cost of God knows what (because their fiscal assessments are generally worthless). HELLO! The five most significant cancer promoters/indicators are 1) smoking, 2) drinking, 3) diet, 4) lack of exercise, and 5) genetics. The contribution of environmental insults is nothing in the big scheme of things. OTOH, I don't want them to get anymore crazy ideas about controlling our personal lives. I would prefer if I could just continue to smoke, drink, eat some potato chips, and lay on my couch, without the government interfering (I can't do anything about my bad genes). And, we're all going to die of something one day. So, let's just accept that, and move on.
Seriously. Could we stop with the hysteria about death? Yes, I'm afraid of being in a plane commandeered by terrorists, and yes, I'm afraid of dying a slow painful death from cancer. I just think that, in the end, since we're all going to die anyway, it might be better to spend our capital frugally on improving the quality of all our lives, rather than spending it recklessly to try to extend the quantity, which will in the end be finite no matter what we do. But, politically, saying you're against death, in whatever form, is a winning ticket.
This is the problem we have with radiation. In the public's mind:
Radiation = Death. What they don't get is that: Chocolate = Death, Beer = Death, Grandma's faulty genes = Death, Laying around watching TV all day = Death, and, in the end, even exercising and eating right = Death, because we all die.
Just my two cents.
Barbara L. Hamrick, Esq., CHP
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