[ RadSafe ] Anti-nuclear zealots over the globe.

Brennan, Mike (DOH) Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV
Tue Aug 25 11:18:24 CDT 2009


Between landmines and DU, the landmines are clearly the higher risk
issue.  The effects are near term and acute, as opposed to long term and
chronic (discounting the nearly magical claims put forward by the
anti-DU crowd).  DU is either in chunks, which are easy to find and safe
to clean up, or combustion products, which become more dispersed over
time, decreasing in concentration, and hence risk.  Landmines are often
intentionally difficult to find and dangerous to remove.  It is true
that the activity of the DU will remain constant on any timescale useful
for planning, and landmines will decrease in number by being cleared,
set off, and chemical deterioration, but it is entirely possible that
mines will still be killing and maiming people in Iraq 50 years from
now.  

On the other hand, none of the landmines were set by the US Military
(with possible exception around some of the bases, in fields designed to
be removed as part of the eventual pull out).  For many people, this
makes landmines in Iraq of no interest. 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of garyi at trinityphysics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:34 AM
To: maurysis at peoplepc.com; radsafe at radlab.nl;
john.gumnick at exeloncorp.com
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Anti-nuclear zealots over the globe.

Hi John,

You are quite right that Maury's referenced article did not support his
claim of zealots avidly blocking new nuclear power plants.  That article
was really an Iranian DU propaganda piece meant to create social guilt
in the US for political leverage.

But Maury's implied claim is nevertheless accurate.  If you need other
articles that do support his claim, I'll be happy to post a few.  

Now that we've tidied up that point, can you please clarify your use of
the phrase "uncontroversial and undeniable".  It seems silly to ask, but
are you in fact refering to the article cited by Maury, the Iranian
propaganda piece?  If so, do you really think the article is
"uncontroversial and undeniable"?

Thanks,
-Gary
--------------------------------
Gary Isenhower, M.S.
Trinity Physics Consulting
713-690-3020


On 25 Aug 2009 at 6:14, john.gumnick at exeloncorp.com wrote:

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Well, I followed the link to see if I could get a look at those avid
new nuclear plant blockers, and I saw exactly nada. Just some
relatively old stuff about how all the DU ordnance loosed on Iraq is
still a problem, with a kicker toward the end noting that Iraq still
has a lot of land mines strewn about.

How, exactly do you make the leap from these uncontroversial and
undeniable points of fact to "avidly blocking new nuclear power
plants?"


In fact, there was no connection to nuclear power in the article at
all until you just made one. I'm not sure that helps the cause.

John Gumnick, CHP
RP Tech Manager
Exelon Nuclear LaSalle County Station 
Phone: 815-415-2703
john.gumnick at exeloncorp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Maury Siskel Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:13 AM To:
radsafe Subject: [ RadSafe ] Anti-nuclear zealots over the globe.

If any think anti-nuclear zealotry has diminished or died, rest
assured; they are alive, well, and avidly blocking new nuclear power
plants over the globe. Maury&Dog  (Maury Siskel 
maurysis at peoplepc.com)

===========================
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=104356&sectionid=351020201

"Radioactive US weapons taking toll in Iraq Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:14:18
GMT

Years after the US attacks on Iraq, people in the Persian Gulf state
are suffering form the consequences of radioactive contamination
caused by the use of depleted uranium.

Iraq's Environment Minister, Narmin Othman Hasan, said Monday that
depleted Uranium (DU) weapons used by US-led troops against Iraq
during the1991 Persian Gulf War and the 2003 invasion still blight the
country.

Othman Hasan said the use of super-tough weapons by the US-led forces
had a devastating impact on the nation and has become a serious
environmental challenge since they have contaminated several parts of
the country. ..." ---------------snipped, see link for complete
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