[ RadSafe ] Global Warming

Sun Dec 6 14:15:33 CST 2009

George Will, who is not a member of Radsafe, weighs in with "The climate-change travesty":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/04/AR2009120403073.html

Bob C

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf Of Jess Addis
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:06 PM
To: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Global Warming

I fear nothing Howard.  Absolutely nothing.  Least of all my own death or demise.  How about you?  

I won’t be here much longer and that doesn’t concern me very much.  I do want to be a good steward of my resources of my environment and I do feel a responsibility to make an effort to leave things in at least as good a condition as when I got here.  

I read the petition.  It impressive that 28% of the “scientist”  signers hold PhDs.   All of my scientist friends with whom I meet and imbibe every day after work are PhDs and 90% of them wouldn’t put a pen to that petition.  

Thanks for the link though, I’ll take the time to read through it.

Jess Addis

From: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net [mailto:HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Jess Addis
Cc: Otto Raabe; Steven Dapra; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Global Warming

To Jess and others in a "State of Fear" 

(Crichton's fascinating novel with scientificly accurate footnotes)-

Critical analysis of all available data (not starting with what's needed for $ grant)

is now available at www.petitionproject.org 

Howard Long

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jess Addis" <ajess at clemson.edu>
To: "Otto Raabe" <ograabe at ucdavis.edu>, "Steven Dapra" <sjd at swcp.com>, radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 5:40:26 PM GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Global Warming

I just don't think we can know what we don't know. How many billion/trillion
metric tons of pollutants/stuff (yes that's a technical term) can we
continue to pump into our paper thin atmosphere and hope that the earth can
absorb or sequester it.

Sun spot activity? Orbital perturbations? Etc. etc. - yes they occur.  But
we don't have enough data to understand the interrelationships and
complexity of all those variables. We just can't know what we don't know.

At some point, would be prudent to put less of that stuff into our
atmosphere? Are we there yet, and how do we know?  How many people would we
allow to sit inside our homes and smoke cigarettes on a continuing basis
before we might consider opening a window?

Yes, I'm all for nuclear power and I'm am probably pretty similar socially
and politically to many, if not most the "people in power in Washington now
of the present admin".  I've made most of my living from nuclear power and
research for most of my working lifetime.

Jess Addis, RSO
Clemson University

December 4, 2009

Variations in global temperature over the last 100 years are well 
correlated to sunspot activity. Here is one theory I found in the
literature:

Apparently it is solar sun-spot activity that indirectly alters the 
earth's albedo and causes  temperature variations, not carbon 
dioxide. Sun spots involve electromagnetic storms that interfere with 
the flux of cosmic protons that create charged condensation nuclei 
increasing cloud formation in the upper atmosphere. Clouds help cool 
the earth by reflecting away the sun's heat. Low levels of sun spots 
indicate that cosmic protons showers are hitting the ,atmosphere with 
little interference improving cloud formation. There is a shortage of 
sun spots now. so the Earth will probably be getting cooler for many years.

This has been suggested in the scientific literature and in some 
popular press articles but the carbon dioxide induced global warming 
myth has become tenacious doctrine by politicians and environmental 
activists. Meanwhile draconian measures to stop the use of 
carbonaceous fuels may seriously hinder business activities and hurt 
our economy.

Personally, I believe that nuclear power is hated or feared by the 
people in power in Washington now, so I don't expect any progress 
along those lines.

Otto

Prof. Otto G. Raabe, Ph.D., CHP
Center for Health & the Environment
University of California
One Shields Avenue
Davis, CA 95616
E-Mail: ograabe at ucdavis.edu
Phone: (530) 752-7754   FAX: (530) 758-6140  
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