[ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming US EPA accepts CO2 as apollutant now.

Mon Dec 7 07:55:45 CST 2009

As I understand it, the basis for EPA's decision was the theoretical potential (based on computer models and data that both now appear to be suspect) to cause climate change, not on any health effects.

Jim

>>> parthasarathy k s <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk> 12/6/2009 19:38 >>>
US EPA now accepts carbon dioxide as a pollutant. 

regards
Parthasarathy

From: Jim Hardeman <Jim.Hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us>
To: "radsafe at radlab.nl" <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Mon, 7 December, 2009 5:39:07
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sandy et al. --

It has yet to be demonstrated to my satisfaction that carbon dioxide meets the definition of "pollutant".

Jim Hardeman
jim.hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us 

>>> "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com> 12/6/2009 18:33 >>>
Ed,

All true. My point is simply that regardless of what these individuals say, we've known for years that pollutants spewed out into the environment is harmful. There have been efforts to reduce auto emissions for decades in areas of CA and other states, well before it became popular to discuss global warming. The reason that was the case, and is still the case, is because pollutants harm individuals. The only difference now is the these same pollutants may be accelerating the effect on the environment, thus, global warming. While these individuals may promote and in some cases benefit from the global warming debate, and may not be in favor of nuclear power, that doesn't diminish the fact that pollutants damage the environment and people, and animals for that matter, and we should be doing something about that, and not attack any effort because of what some politician or other persons may say about global warming, whichever side of the argument that are on.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Baratta [mailto:edmond0033 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: Perle, Sandy; radsafe at radlab.nl 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sander

What you say may be true.  However, it seems that when the 'esteem' PM Brown
of the UK calls those who oppose his 'religion' and are called like the
'flat-earthers' and other nasty names.  Also, the Senator from CA (Boxer)
calls those revealing the E-Mails (also bad name) of the pseudo scientist
caught 'fixing' the data, one wonders what is really going on.  Gore has
made hundreds of millions of dollars on this 'religion', He also received
the Nobel Prize (lost some luster on the Peace Prizes latest awarder) and an
Oscar for a made up movie.  None of them are for Nuclear Power, which would
not contribute to pollution, Carbon Dioxide or other.

Ed Baratta

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From: "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:21 AM
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

> It is a fact that we are seeing the effects of global warming. They are
> real and I can't believe that anyone would not recognize there are
> problems in the environment and living things. The question as I see it is
> how much of this is due to man-made or natural causes. All of it could be
> blamed on natural evolution through time. We've had the ice age and we've
> seen other naturally occurring events through history. I also believe that
> we humans are putting a lot of pollutants into the environment. Whether or
> not this causes global warming, to whatever degree, isn't the issue in my
> mind. What is the issue is whether or not these pollutants are good for
> mankind or not. I don't believe they are. I also agree that significant
> extreme measures should not be initiated without more evidence that we
> need to take that measure. However, I do believe that we should take
> moderate measures as appropriate. This is not an all or nothing situation.
> This is simply the logical process that should be followed. An analogy
> would be taking medical supplements to prevent or minimize the effect of
> some illness or potential disease. In many case we don't have all the
> evidence whether or not there is a beneficial effect, yet we don't simply
> throw away the supplement since there is 100% proof of benefit. It's
> simply a matter of using common sense and logic in the decision making
> process. Therefore, we should take appropriate steps to minimize the
> effects of the causative factors and where there is more evidence that is
> sound and can be supported, more extensive measures could be initiated.
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