AW: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Wed Dec 9 10:17:42 CST 2009

This is an international list. I have refrained from commenting, because I
simply do not regard myself competent in this field (though I have an
opinion)- unfortunately dozens of other clearly incompetents had the
impression that they were competent - I except those who made reasonable and
common sense arguments. But at an international list one cannot expect that
something like your "message" can be understood - it sounds like brabbling
of a drunk person. I hope it is not and that you will forward a
"translation" into English or if you prefer to American English. 

Best regards,

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag
von Dixon, John E. (CDC/CCEHIP/NCEH)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. Dezember 2009 16:55
An: Jim Hardeman; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Give up the soda and please take your BEANO...I guess the powers that be
will have the fine us all for breathing... 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Jim Hardeman
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:09 PM
To: 'radsafe at radlab.nl'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sandy et al. --

It has yet to be demonstrated to my satisfaction that carbon dioxide
meets the definition of "pollutant".

Jim Hardeman
jim.hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us 

>>> "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com> 12/6/2009 18:33 >>>
Ed,

All true. My point is simply that regardless of what these individuals
say, we've known for years that pollutants spewed out into the
environment is harmful. There have been efforts to reduce auto emissions
for decades in areas of CA and other states, well before it became
popular to discuss global warming. The reason that was the case, and is
still the case, is because pollutants harm individuals. The only
difference now is the these same pollutants may be accelerating the
effect on the environment, thus, global warming. While these individuals
may promote and in some cases benefit from the global warming debate,
and may not be in favor of nuclear power, that doesn't diminish the fact
that pollutants damage the environment and people, and animals for that
matter, and we should be doing something about that, and not attack any
effort because of what some politician or other persons may say about
global warming, whichever side of the argument that are on.

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President
Mirion Technologies
Dosimetry Services Division
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-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Baratta [mailto:edmond0033 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: Perle, Sandy; radsafe at radlab.nl 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sander

What you say may be true.  However, it seems that when the 'esteem' PM
Brown
of the UK calls those who oppose his 'religion' and are called like the
'flat-earthers' and other nasty names.  Also, the Senator from CA
(Boxer)
calls those revealing the E-Mails (also bad name) of the pseudo
scientist
caught 'fixing' the data, one wonders what is really going on.  Gore has
made hundreds of millions of dollars on this 'religion', He also
received
the Nobel Prize (lost some luster on the Peace Prizes latest awarder)
and an
Oscar for a made up movie.   None of them are for Nuclear Power, which
would
not contribute to pollution, Carbon Dioxide or other.

Ed Baratta

edmond0033 at comcast.net 
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From: "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:21 AM
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

> It is a fact that we are seeing the effects of global warming. They
are
> real and I can't believe that anyone would not recognize there are
> problems in the environment and living things. The question as I see
it is
> how much of this is due to man-made or natural causes. All of it could
be
> blamed on natural evolution through time. We've had the ice age and
we've
> seen other naturally occurring events through history. I also believe
that
> we humans are putting a lot of pollutants into the environment.
Whether or
> not this causes global warming, to whatever degree, isn't the issue in
my
> mind. What is the issue is whether or not these pollutants are good
for
> mankind or not. I don't believe they are. I also agree that
significant
> extreme measures should not be initiated without more evidence that we
> need to take that measure. However, I do believe that we should take
> moderate measures as appropriate. This is not an all or nothing
situation.
> This is simply the logical process that should be followed. An analogy
> would be taking medical supplements to prevent or minimize the effect
of
> some illness or potential disease. In many case we don't have all the
> evidence whether or not there is a beneficial effect, yet we don't
simply
> throw away the supplement since there is 100% proof of benefit. It's
> simply a matter of using common sense and logic in the decision making
> process. Therefore, we should take appropriate steps to minimize the
> effects of the causative factors and where there is more evidence that
is
> sound and can be supported, more extensive measures could be
initiated.
>
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> Sander C. Perle
> President
> Mirion Technologies
> Dosimetry Services Division
> 2652 McGaw Avenue
> Irvine, CA 92614
> +1 (949) 296-2306 (Office)
> +1 (949) 296-1144 (Fax)
>
> Mirion Technologies: http://www.mirion.com/ 
>
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