[ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Wed Dec 9 12:55:00 CST 2009

Brian --

You could probably get BILLIONS of dollars if you simply refer to it as "gaseous dihydrogen monoxide" (the most potent of "greenhouse gases" -- far more potent that carbon dioxide) instead of "water vapor" <he said, tongue firmly planted in cheek>

Jim Hardeman

>>> "Riely, Brian P." <brian.riely at ngc.com> 12/9/2009 11:23 >>>

Sandy

Yes, we should try to reduce pollution.  Catalytic converter are very
helpful in doing that.  They convert carbon monoxide to the harmless
chemicals carbon dioxide and water vapor.  What is next, do we classify
water as a pollutant?

Maybe we should get rid of all catalytic converters and produce more
carbon monoxide, which to the Al Gore believers should be less harmful
than CO2.

Let's device a scheme where we can say water is killing some
cute-looking creature and is destroying the earth so that we can get
fame and fortune.  (I could use a few hundred million dollars)

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Dixon, John E. (CDC/CCEHIP/NCEH)
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Jim Hardeman; radsafe at radlab.nl 
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Give up the soda and please take your BEANO...I guess the powers that be
will have the fine us all for breathing... 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Jim Hardeman
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:09 PM
To: 'radsafe at radlab.nl'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sandy et al. --

It has yet to be demonstrated to my satisfaction that carbon dioxide
meets the definition of "pollutant".

Jim Hardeman
jim.hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us 

>>> "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com> 12/6/2009 18:33 >>>
Ed,

All true. My point is simply that regardless of what these individuals
say, we've known for years that pollutants spewed out into the
environment is harmful. There have been efforts to reduce auto emissions
for decades in areas of CA and other states, well before it became
popular to discuss global warming. The reason that was the case, and is
still the case, is because pollutants harm individuals. The only
difference now is the these same pollutants may be accelerating the
effect on the environment, thus, global warming. While these individuals
may promote and in some cases benefit from the global warming debate,
and may not be in favor of nuclear power, that doesn't diminish the fact
that pollutants damage the environment and people, and animals for that
matter, and we should be doing something about that, and not attack any
effort because of what some politician or other persons may say about
global warming, whichever side of the argument that are on.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Baratta [mailto:edmond0033 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: Perle, Sandy; radsafe at radlab.nl 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

Sander

What you say may be true.  However, it seems that when the 'esteem' PM
Brown of the UK calls those who oppose his 'religion' and are called
like the 'flat-earthers' and other nasty names.  Also, the Senator from
CA
(Boxer)
calls those revealing the E-Mails (also bad name) of the pseudo
scientist caught 'fixing' the data, one wonders what is really going on.
Gore has made hundreds of millions of dollars on this 'religion', He
also received the Nobel Prize (lost some luster on the Peace Prizes
latest awarder) and an
Oscar for a made up movie.   None of them are for Nuclear Power, which
would
not contribute to pollution, Carbon Dioxide or other.

Ed Baratta

edmond0033 at comcast.net 
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From: "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:21 AM
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Global Warming

> It is a fact that we are seeing the effects of global warming. They
are
> real and I can't believe that anyone would not recognize there are 
> problems in the environment and living things. The question as I see
it is
> how much of this is due to man-made or natural causes. All of it could
be
> blamed on natural evolution through time. We've had the ice age and
we've
> seen other naturally occurring events through history. I also believe
that
> we humans are putting a lot of pollutants into the environment.
Whether or
> not this causes global warming, to whatever degree, isn't the issue in
my
> mind. What is the issue is whether or not these pollutants are good
for
> mankind or not. I don't believe they are. I also agree that
significant
> extreme measures should not be initiated without more evidence that we

> need to take that measure. However, I do believe that we should take 
> moderate measures as appropriate. This is not an all or nothing
situation.
> This is simply the logical process that should be followed. An analogy

> would be taking medical supplements to prevent or minimize the effect
of
> some illness or potential disease. In many case we don't have all the 
> evidence whether or not there is a beneficial effect, yet we don't
simply
> throw away the supplement since there is 100% proof of benefit. It's 
> simply a matter of using common sense and logic in the decision making

> process. Therefore, we should take appropriate steps to minimize the 
> effects of the causative factors and where there is more evidence that
is
> sound and can be supported, more extensive measures could be
initiated.
>
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> Mirion Technologies
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