[ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear compromisetopasscleanenergy bill

Riely, Brian P. brian.riely at ngc.com
Thu Dec 10 14:34:07 CST 2009 

I do not have time to present a detailed and cogent argument.  The
morality behind going into Iraq had to do with Sadam Huseins repeated
and flagarent violation of the agreement he made after the first Iraq
war.  The UN, Germany, Russia, and France had a vested interest in
keeping Sadam Hussein in power via the oil for Food program.  The UN
took 2% off the top, Kofi Annan made millions, and Germany, Russia, and
France made lucrative deals with Sadam H.  The main reason GWB invaded
Iraq was part of the war on terror.  When we invaded Iraq, Iraq has an
active nuclear weapons program, on July 2, 2008 550 metric tons of
yellow cake uranium was shipped from Iraq to Canada.  Sadam H. top
military advisor wrote that the weapons of mass destruction were shipped
to Syria before we arrived.  The British still stand behind their
statement that Sadam was in Niger seeking uranium.  Sorry that I do not
have time to give more details. 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Brennan, Mike (DOH)
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:52 PM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear
compromisetopasscleanenergy bill

I have been told repeatedly that the Bush Administration did not claim
that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, and that invading
Iraq was not connected to the Twin Towers.  Are you now saying that they
were wrong?

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Riely, Brian P.
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:03 AM
To: Flowerday, Scott; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear compromise
topasscleanenergy bill

he has not fabricated any evidence to start any new wars 

Wow!!  Are you really that gullible?  Do you also believe Bush blew up
the World Trade Center?

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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Flowerday, Scott
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:47 PM
To: Perle, Sandy; garyi at trinityphysics.com; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear compromise to
passcleanenergy bill

It might be good to quit drawing generalizations ("the majority of
Democrats").  Politics and science do not mix.  Pro-nuclear Republicans
elect representatives that aren't smart enough to comprehend evolution
(or they are smart enough but just not honest).  Environmental Democrats
aren't smart enough to understand the benefits of nuclear power with
respect to the environment.  I have decided that there is too much
stupidity on both sides of the aisle to embrace either party and try to
figure out which candidate will actually cause the least amount of harm.
Considering the eight years prior to electing President Obama, my
decision to vote for Obama was fairly easy.

As far as showing Franz that there has been positive change under Obama,
I would suggest that the best evidence to date (that there has been
positive change) is that he has not fabricated any evidence to start any
new wars and seems to be intent on finding a way to end the ones that he
inherited.

Scott 


-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Perle, Sandy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:18 PM
To: 'garyi at trinityphysics.com'; 'radsafe at radlab.nl'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear compromise to pass
cleanenergy bill

Hi Gary,

I don't disagree at all that Obama and the majority of Democrats are
anti-nuclear. The purpose of providing the article was to address
Franz's request is there anything that shows anything positive from
Obama. While they are still not pro, at least this was a concilatory
copmment from the administration. One can't deny that. However, actions
do speak louder than words, so we'll see (I'm not holding my breath)!
OPne last thpught, any Cabinet member when speaking to Congress or
elsewhere, generally is speaking for the President, and the fact that
Chu came from the Department of Energy, I have more confidence in his
words when spoken.

But you and I are generally in full agreement.

Regards,

Sandy

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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of garyi at trinityphysics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:45 PM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Obama makes NO nuclear compromise to pass clean
energy bill

That wasn't Obama doing the endorsing, it was the energy secretary.
There is a huge
difference between sending a surrogate and saying something yourself.
And if you read what
was said, even the secretary promised....nothing.  Closing Yucca, imho,
speaks louder than this "endorsement by association".  I've looked, and
I can't find a single thing that this administration has done to advance
nuclear power, despite the overwhelming emphasis it puts on clean energy

If I were president, and I really did "...want to recapture the lead on
industrial nuclear power"
I would actually say so myself.  Further, I would be pushing congress to
make legislative changes to accomplish that.  Nothing like that is
happening.  No, in the context of the political situation, Chu's
statements are really meant to entice more support for climate
legislation, not nuclear power.  Its not even a carrot - its a
suggestion of a carrot, a shimmering global warming mirage of a carrot.
Kind of like the EPA's threat of "command and control"
regulation of CO2 is a stick (but the stick is real).

Even if the big 0 really does like nuclear power, his core political
base is simply too green for him to risk allowing real progress on it.

-Gary Isenhower


On 9 Dec 2009 at 16:56, Perle, Sandy wrote:

From:                   "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com>

Franz,

Here is "one" example, not just by words but by actual endorsement.

Regards,

Sandy
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