[ RadSafe ] Re: More on cell phones

[Perrero, Daren]

Mike and Steve,

I don't have much cause to be involved in non-ionizing aspects of
radiation (the ionizing kind keeps me busy enough!).  From your review
of the literature, is that localized brain heating directly attributed
to radiation associated with the cell phone or is a confounding factor
involved such as the presence of a person's hand holding the phone or
other power dissipation from the phone also involved?

In a similar vein, growing up, my mother threw out all her electric
blankets when she heard the fable of induced currents affecting people's
health from their usage. Can't say I've seen any subsequent studies to
show a deleterious health affect 20-30 years later from that population
that chose to forego those blankets vs. those that kept theirs in use.

Daren Perrero

The opinions expresses are mine, all mine.....
I'm with the government and I'm here to help you (ack!)
daren.perrero(a)Illinois.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Mike Quastel
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:47 AM
To: Steven Dapra
Cc: RADSAFE; Susan Gawarecki
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: More on cell phones

I agree that no significant clinical effects have yet been found with  
microwaves and with cell phones, and I certainly am against the hype  
on the subject. To be the devil's advocate, however, there appears to  
be some local heating to the part of the brain adjacent to the cell  
phone, the biomedical significance of which is not clear. As is well  
known, manifestation of the carcinogenic effects of ionizing  
radiation can be delayed many years, even as many as 25 years after  
the initial exposure. How long have cell phones been around - maybe  
10? It would therefore be wise to reserve judgement on the long term  
consequences of cell phone use and to encourage the use of earphones  
for those who use cellphones intensely.
Mike Quastel MD PhD (Nuc Med)

On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:12 AM, Steven Dapra wrote:

> Dec. 30
>
>         Thank you for posting this, Susan.
>
>         Here is a link to an article by Prof. Park in Forbes about  
> Brodeur and his claim that EMFs cause leukemia, etc., etc.  http:// 
> www.electrowarmth.com/emf.php
>
> Steven Dapra
>
>
> At 04:25 PM 12/30/2009, Susan Gawarecki wrote:
>> Below is a physicist's take on the issue. Bob Park takes no  
>> prisoners!
>>
>> --Susan Gawarecki
>>
>> >From Bob Park's "What's New" 25 Dec 09:
>>
>> 2. WARNING! CELL PHONES ARE FOUND TO EMIT BULLSH*T.
>> >From San Francisco to Maine there is a campaign to require cancer  
>> warning
>> labels on cell phones. Fact: cell phone radiation doesn't cause  
>> cancer.
>> Cancer agents break chemical bonds, creating mutant strands of DNA.
>> Microwave photons cannot break chemical bonds. This is not  
>> debatable. In
>> 1989, Paul Brodeur, a staff writer for the New Yorker, claimed in  
>> a series
>> of sensational articles that electromagnetic fields from power  
>> lines cause
>> childhood leukemia http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN89/ 
>> wn082589.html .
>> Brodeur, however, understood none of this and when virtually every
>> scientist agreed that it was impossible, Brodeur took their  
>> unanimity as
>> proof of a massive cover-up. Other anti-science know-nothings  
>> followed
>> Brodeur's lead, shifting their attack to cell phone radiation.  
>> Cell phones
>> have since spread to almost the entire population, but with no
>> corresponding increase in brain cancer. Case closed.