[ RadSafe ] Re: More on cell phones

[bobcherry at satx.rr.com]

What Mike is suggesting below was once called "prudent avoidance," which was generally discredited almost 20 years ago by those working in the RFR/microwave radiation safety field.

I suggest to those worried about localized cranial heating due to cell phone use, (1) get a better cell phone and (2) always wear a hat when you go outdoors under the sun.

Bob C
---- "Perrero wrote: 
> Mike and Steve,
> 
> I don't have much cause to be involved in non-ionizing aspects of
> radiation (the ionizing kind keeps me busy enough!).  From your review
> of the literature, is that localized brain heating directly attributed
> to radiation associated with the cell phone or is a confounding factor
> involved such as the presence of a person's hand holding the phone or
> other power dissipation from the phone also involved?
> 
> In a similar vein, growing up, my mother threw out all her electric
> blankets when she heard the fable of induced currents affecting people's
> health from their usage. Can't say I've seen any subsequent studies to
> show a deleterious health affect 20-30 years later from that population
> that chose to forego those blankets vs. those that kept theirs in use.
> 
> Daren Perrero
> 
> The opinions expresses are mine, all mine.....
> I'm with the government and I'm here to help you (ack!)
> daren.perrero(a)Illinois.gov
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of Mike Quastel
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: Steven Dapra
> Cc: RADSAFE; Susan Gawarecki
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: More on cell phones
> 
> I agree that no significant clinical effects have yet been found with  
> microwaves and with cell phones, and I certainly am against the hype  
> on the subject. To be the devil's advocate, however, there appears to  
> be some local heating to the part of the brain adjacent to the cell  
> phone, the biomedical significance of which is not clear. As is well  
> known, manifestation of the carcinogenic effects of ionizing  
> radiation can be delayed many years, even as many as 25 years after  
> the initial exposure. How long have cell phones been around - maybe  
> 10? It would therefore be wise to reserve judgement on the long term  
> consequences of cell phone use and to encourage the use of earphones  
> for those who use cellphones intensely.
> Mike Quastel MD PhD (Nuc Med)
> 
> On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:12 AM, Steven Dapra wrote:
> 
> > Dec. 30
> >
> >         Thank you for posting this, Susan.
> >
> >         Here is a link to an article by Prof. Park in Forbes about  
> > Brodeur and his claim that EMFs cause leukemia, etc., etc.  http:// 
> > www.electrowarmth.com/emf.php
> >
> > Steven Dapra
> >
> >
> > At 04:25 PM 12/30/2009, Susan Gawarecki wrote:
> >> Below is a physicist's take on the issue. Bob Park takes no  
> >> prisoners!
> >>
> >> --Susan Gawarecki
> >>
> >> >From Bob Park's "What's New" 25 Dec 09:
> >>
> >> 2. WARNING! CELL PHONES ARE FOUND TO EMIT BULLSH*T.
> >> >From San Francisco to Maine there is a campaign to require cancer  
> >> warning
> >> labels on cell phones. Fact: cell phone radiation doesn't cause  
> >> cancer.
> >> Cancer agents break chemical bonds, creating mutant strands of DNA.
> >> Microwave photons cannot break chemical bonds. This is not  
> >> debatable. In
> >> 1989, Paul Brodeur, a staff writer for the New Yorker, claimed in  
> >> a series
> >> of sensational articles that electromagnetic fields from power  
> >> lines cause
> >> childhood leukemia http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN89/ 
> >> wn082589.html .
> >> Brodeur, however, understood none of this and when virtually every
> >> scientist agreed that it was impossible, Brodeur took their  
> >> unanimity as
> >> proof of a massive cover-up. Other anti-science know-nothings  
> >> followed
> >> Brodeur's lead, shifting their attack to cell phone radiation.  
> >> Cell phones
> >> have since spread to almost the entire population, but with no
> >> corresponding increase in brain cancer. Case closed.
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