AW: [ RadSafe ] The world's first permanent disposal site forused nuclear fuel will be at Forsmark, Sweden's SKB announced today.

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at
Thu Jun 4 06:52:54 CDT 2009

George and other RADSAFErs,

I cannot take this message to be serious. I recall your previous comments,
which were directed to my experience of the Chernobyl accident and tried to
ridicule my experience of far more than ten years on this case. I further
recall your similarily ridiculous comments on my experience as the head of
the IAEA terrestrial working group on the Mururoa Project. So now you
continue to distribute your ridiculous comments, using the Forsmark plans
for disposal of use nuclear fuel. 

A very short answer to your comments (questions), which imply that Swedish
scientists are simply idiots and do not know anything about the nuclear fuel
cycle. (I am not Swedish, though I know the language fluently.) How can you
dare to put that forward on an international newsgroup?

How can you dare to put such a question on RADSAFE, taking into account that
the world-wide signal has been distributed by the US-Carter administration,
backing those anti-nuclear groups and which was of course used by the
so-called "greens"? One of their most important goals always was -
officially - the breaking of the nuclear fuel cycle. In the USA they
obviously succeeded. 

Ask your own US administration and don't blame anything on the European
situation. Reprocessing is going on in Europe, but since decades it has been
stalled in the USA - blame your own administration.

To all of my information, which might be wrong, the so called "final
repositories" planned in Europe will allow retrieval of the fuel rods.

Think twice before you again write such a nonsensical message to RADSAFE.


Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at [mailto:radsafe-bounces at] Im Auftrag
von George Stanford
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Juni 2009 21:14
An: Cary Renquist
Cc: radsafe at
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] The world's first permanent disposal site forused
nuclear fuel will be at Forsmark, Sweden's SKB announced today.

      Is there nobody influential in  Sweden who 
knows that the used fuel that they're going to 
bury in clay -- presumably irretrievably -- still 
retains 95% of the energy it started with?

      Nobody who knows that fast reactors can access that energy?

      Nobody who knows that the waste form fast 
reactors (such as the IFR) is mainly fission products (one ton per

      Nobody who knows that the activity of that 
waste becomes too low to worry about within 500 years?

      Nobody who knows that 90% of the ore's 
energy remains in the depleted uranium that's 
left over from the enrichment process -- energy 
that also can be used by fast reactors?

     Nobody who knows that the IFR technology is 
ready now for a commercial-scale demonstration?

     We don't seem to be very good at telling 
people about what nuclear power can do for the world, do we?

         George Stanford
         Reactor physicist, retired


At 01:43 PM 6/3/2009, Cary Renquist wrote:
Forsmark for Swedish nuclear waste
03 June 2009

The world's first permanent disposal site for 
used nuclear fuel will be at Forsmark, Sweden's SKB announced today.

The decision was announced by SKB President, 
Claes Thegerström today after a board meeting 
yesterday. Forsmark, in the municipality of 
Östhammar, was selected in favour of Laxemar in 
the Oskarshamn municipality after a process of 
investigation and engagement that has lasted since 2002.

Site works towards the underground facility could 
begin in 2013, with full construction starting in 
2015 and operation in 2023. This single facility, 
using only 15 hectares above ground, would hold 
all of the high-level radioactive waste from the 
nuclear power reactors that provide about 45% of 
Sweden's electricity. SKB will apply to nuclear 
safety regulators for premission to build in around one year's time.

The repository is designed to isolate the wastes 
for the 100,000 years it will take until their 
levels of radiation return to the original low 
levels of natural uranium. Used nuclear fuel 
assemblies are to be packed in cast iron baskets 
within thick copper canisters and packed in clay 
almost 500 metres below gound in a continguous 
section of igneous rock. At that level, 
groundwater movement is so slow that the wastes 
could never affect life at the surface. The 
method, known as KBS-3, was selected in 1983.

The competition to host the site was hard fought, 
with both communities taking keen interest - both 
municipalities already have nuclear facilities. 
Forsmark already hosts a nuclear power plant and 
the final repository for short-lived radioactive 
waste, but its selection for this facility comes 
as something of a surprise. The used fuel for 
disposition at the CLAB interim store is in the 
Oskarshamn municipality near Laxemar, as will be 
the encapsulation plant. Also in that region is 
the Äspö hard rock laboratory where much of the 
practical work to demonstrate the disposal method has taken place

Cary Renquist


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