[ RadSafe ] Fw: Uranium contamination

Fri Apr 2 18:54:25 CDT 2010

What really is needed is for the medical community to aggressively attack
the numerous allegations that uranium (particularly the uranium oxide
residue of the use of depleted uranium kinetic energy penetrators in Iraq)
has caused birth defects and cancers.  The well funded UK Campaign Against
Depleted Uranium and its many worldwide offshoots have saturated the net,
letters to the editor, and correspondence to politicians with massive
amounts of false information.  Even the Veterans for Common Sense have
bought into this campaign and are insisting on the VA providing better
screening for non-existent DU caused disase and birth defects.  The campaign
even claims that aerosolized Uranium that is breathed into the lungs and can
not migrate further in the body because it is insoluble and thus can not be
carried in the blood negatively affects DNA and can pass these defects unto
future generations.  That's why there is concern with uranium remediation.
Look at all the hue and cry because DU was to have been disposed of in Utah.
Have any of you got medical contacts who can begin attacking this false
information?  The only medical professionals who seem to have voiced an
opinion were taken in by Saddam Hussein's propaganda campaign.  Thomas Fasy
in New York City is a typical example - here are a few links when you Google
his name.

Overall Plan | International Commission of Inquiry on Crimes ...Apr 20, 2006
... Dr. Thomas Fasy, Associate Professor of Pathology, ... Power & Empire:
Iraq and the U.S. Global Agenda; Thomas Fasy, MD,Mt. Sinai School of ...
www.bushcommission.org/?q=node/19

We Call for the United States to End - Campaign for Peace and
...Co-Directors. Joanne Landy & Thomas Harrison ... Daniel Ellsberg,
Gertrude Ezorsky, Samuel Farber, Mansour Farhang, Thomas Fasy, MD, Liza
Featherstone, ...
www.cpdweb.org/stmts/1014/stmt.shtml

Campaign Against Depleted Uranium - The Iraqi Children's Tooth ProjectThomas
M. Fasy, M.D., Ph.D. Associate Clinical Professor of Pathology Mount Sinai
School of Medicine New York, NY Dr. Fasy is collecting control teeth from
...
www.cadu.org.uk/action/tooth_project.htm

PoisonPlanet Conference Part 2 Dr. Thomas Fasy Presents  49 min - Jun 2,
2007 -
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1046587174916983258
Thomas Fasy, MD of Mount Sinai Hospital will present his research on the
impact of Depleted Uranium weapons used during Gulf War I and the ...

Falluja's Birth Defects | AfterDowningStreet.orgMar 12, 2010 ... Quote:
"Presentations by Souad Naji Al-Azzawi and Dr. Thomas Fasy MD at the World
Tribunal on Iraq, Istanbul Turkey, June 2005. ...
www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/50736

(this latest wrinkle, Falluja, has nothing to do with DU - there were no
tank battles there; the dug in Sunni insurgent/Al Quaeda/Foreign Fighters
who fought the battles of Falluja had no tanks - there was absolutely no
need to use DU, but the antis, playing on the established propaganda line,
are adamant that DU use has caused an epidemic of birth defects and even
convinced a senior BBC correspondent)

Uranium Weapons, Low-Level Radiation and Deformed Babies | WHAT ...Jan 2,
2010 ... Thomas Fasy MD PhD, Mt. Sinai Med. School, on depleted uranium.
StingRay. It is a high honor for me to speak before the WORLD TRIBUNAL on
...
whatreallyhappened.com/.../uranium-weapons-low-level-radiation-and-deformed-
babies-0 -

A MUST READ and FORWARD : The Tiny Victims of Desert Storm ...9 posts - 7
authors - Last post: Mar 19
Checkout the presentation by Thomas Fasy MD PhD on, JohnyCanuck, Aug-06-05
12:53 AM, #4. Gulf vets were unusually susceptible to a dozen ...
www.democraticunderground.com 

The Iraqi Children's Tooth ProjectThomas M. Fasy, M.D., Ph.D. Associate
Clinical Professor of Pathology Mount Sinai School of Medicine New York, NY
Dr. Fasy is collecting control teeth from ...
www.bandepleteduranium.org > The campaign > Projects

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry Cohen
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:51 PM
To: Cary Renquist; Jerry Cohen; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fw: Uranium contamination

Cary,
      So--- as I suspected, the cleanup of  uranium contaminated areas is 
just another expensive, taxpayer funded, "feel-good" program, intended to 
give the impression, that the government is somehow protecting the public 
against a genuine threat to health and safety. It might not be so egregious 
if there were not any real problems out there which, if addressed and 
solved, could give some real benefit to public health. It seems to me that 
implementation of large scale conspicuous  clean-up efforts could only 
confirm and aggravate  unfounded fears . Such "feel-good" programs intended 
to  assuage unfounded fears are not only ineffective, but could actually be 
counter-productive
Jerry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cary Renquist" <cary.renquist at ezag.com>
To: "Jerry Cohen" <jjc105 at yahoo.com>; <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fw: Uranium contamination

Why?
Public perception and politics.
(especially since we are dealing with evil weapons radiation and not benign 
natural or medical radiation)

The driving issue is that there is likely a regulatory requirement to clean 
up this material -- the health and safety decision was made when the 
decommissioning criteria were set (which means that it is probably more of a

political decision that a true health-n-safety one).
I imagine that U was chosen because the DOE has responsibility for sites 
where U is the main contaminant and not other toxic metals... Or it might be

that there isn't a bacteria that can "fix" the other metal species.

Does "technologically enhanced" U concentration in the soil constitute a 
credible threat -- not bloody likely.  There could very well be a geological

formation a few miles down the road that leads to U levels that are far 
higher than the "enhanced" DOE sites, but unfortunately regulatory 
requirements demand that we be good boy scouts and leave our licensed site 
in the same condition that we found it (if not better condition).

It is a bit similar to the fact that as a rad licensee, I need to be very 
careful to monitor what goes out of my facilities and how I transport rad 
material, but I can pick up a family member from the hospital on my way home

and transport 150 mCi+ of I-131 unshielded/labeled/etc, have dose rates 
greater than 2 mR in any one hour outside my house, and release unmonitored 
material through the sewer.  If I dump 150 mCi of I-131 on the bushes 
outside of my licensed facility I'll be in big regulatory trouble -- if my 
family member gets car sick and throws-up 150 mCi on the bushes outside of 
my house, there is no problem.

Cary

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cary.renquist at ezag.com

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:43
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Fw: Uranium contamination

Uranium is just one of the 92+ elements in soil. Why choose it for such a 
study. Why not lead, cadmium, mercury, etc. I would assume, that for some 
reason, U is considered to be an exceptionally hazerdous material to justify

expenive remediation. I was trying to learn what that reason might be.
Jerry Cohen

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jerry Cohen <jjc105 at yahoo.com>
To: Cary Renquist <cary.renquist at ezag.com>; radsafe <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 8:14:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Uranium contamination

Does the existence of Uranium contamination in soil constitute a credible 
threat to heath and safety, or is this just another costly federal 
"feel-good" program? If such uranium contamination is really a problem, what

should be done with the millions of tons of uranium in the oceanic coastal 
waters. We even allow children to swim in it.
Jerry Cohen
________________________________
From: Cary Renquist <cary.renquist at ezag.com>
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 6:10:01 PM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Argonne scientists seek natural remediation for 
uranium-rich sites

They are looking to understand and optimize the conditions under which
bacteria can
transform U(IV) <soluble> to U(VI) <insoluble>

Argonne scientists seek natural remediation for uranium-rich sites
Link http://j.mp/b3AHAh

Cary
-- 
Cary.renquist at ezag.com