[ RadSafe ] "Deactivated Nukes", Vol 771, Issue 2

Shawn Hughes srh at esper.com
Wed Oct 12 12:25:16 CDT 2011

I have an opinion or two on this, as nuclear weapons design have been a
major focus of my studies since I was a child.

1 -I have never heard the term 'deactivated' mentioned as a war reserve or
trainer system status, either. Not to be picky on terminology; because I
could be wrong, but because 'deactivated' could hold many different

Using Mr. Salsmans' post as a framework, it would sound like the systems
were somehow tampered with in such a way that they were (apparently
temporarily) changed from mission capable to not mission capable. That can
occur for a multitude of reasons, up to and including paint chips of too
large a depth. 

So, it could have been a preventative measure. Something weird flew
overhead, and "looked" at the weapons, now we need to see if they did

If, on the other hand, not having read the book, it means that certain
systems were hooked up to weapons monitoring systems, and the weapons
systems changed internally from one state to another while the ufo was
observing the weapon, then that is a problem of another color completely.

2 - I have a pet theory on UFO's and nuclear weapons, indulge me if you will
for a moment. A UFO is an unidentified flying object. That means to many
people aliens from another realm, but to me it means anything in the sky we
don't know what it is.

Imagine you, as a nascent nation/state, want to see what your enemy /
competitor is accomplishing in nuclear weapons, among other things. You have
an array of sensors, some passive, some active that you'd like to deploy,
but how? 

You find your engineers have made some advances  in aircraft. Not ready to
be manned or weaponized, but they work at smaller scale. So, you load them
with speakers that make eerie sounds, and flashing lights. Maybe even a high
power microwave that you want to see if it can remotely destroy a warhead,
but to complete the illusion you use it to vaporize a cow or a farmer or two
to reinforce the concept - it's not a 1950's reconnaissance drone, no, its'
an alien!

So, the AF pilots, security guys, and  civilian watchers all see what they
want to believe,  no one calls you on flying drones in their soverign
airspace, and life is good.

That's my theory, anyway.

Shawn Hughes

From: "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>

I would go with your initial impulse on this.  Maybe the UFOs didn't
think submarines were worth bothering with, but as someone who was at
that end of the strategic weapons biz, I am pretty sure if someone was
messing with our nukes from the outside, there would have been a memo.
I am not even sure what "deactivated" means in this context, as warheads
are not kept energized all the time (it wears on the electronics), but
are powered up when the missile is "spun-up" (though I admit that other
systems may work differently).  Additionally, it would show gross
incompetence on the part of those operating the UFOs to temporarily
"deactivate" some weapons, rather than permanently taking out all of

On Behalf Of James Salsman

Since Franz thinks my opinion about underground nuclear testing
matters, I thought I would ask a related question which may seem
esoteric at first, but the actual question concerns confidential
decision support.

Today I received in the mail a 600+ page book, "UFOs and Nukes" by
Robert Hastings (2008.) Normally I would dismiss any credulous book
about UFOs, but this one includes documentation of more than 120
military officers who say that they witnessed nuclear weapons
unexpectedly deactivated in missile silos in the US and USSR during
the Cold War, coincident with the observations UFOs being sighted
above ground at the corresponding missile bases within a minute of the
deactivations.  Not only have the USAF and Soviet officers confirmed
their statements for the book, but seven of the USAF officer they went
in front of the National Press Club last November.  Their are videos
at http://ufohastings.com and more information at
and http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/tag/robert-hastings/

More than 30% of the population of the US believes that
extraterrestrials have visited the Earth (if that seems high, consider
that a majority of the US believes angels currently visit the Earth.)
I would like to know the corresponding figure for health physicists,
but only if the survey was confidential.  Are there any precedents or
available facilities for confidential surveys of the Health Physics

James Salsman

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