[ RadSafe ] LNT Dogma?

Tue Aug 18 18:30:46 CDT 2015

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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Preisig
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:26 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] LNT Dogma?

Radsafe,

     Will the US EPA be strongly downsized if Trump gets elected????

     Joe Preisig

PS  and what will occur with Yucca Mountain???

On 8/18/15, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> i am very well aware of the Wikipedia shortfalls, but since we are 
> dealing all the way in our science with probabilities we might also 
> deal with the probability that Wikipedia is not necessarily 100% 
> wrong. I do not support any anti-nuclear or anti radiation group, just 
> at the contrary I use to adress the Greenpeace community as 
> "Greenpiss'"- as it is frequently called
>
> in Austria.
>
> Sorry, I have already stated that LNT helps to keep radiation 
> legislation easly understood and handled.
>
> A personal remark: unfortunately the only time we met personally was 
> in Rhodos and I still remember this nice time with not only scientific 
> highlights but also a fantastic surrounding which I explored after the 
> conference in a rental car.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Franz
>
>
>
> Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> From: KARAM, PHILIP
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:35 PM cience
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing 
> List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] LNT Dogma?
>
> The best summation of LNT that I've heard was from a strong LNT 
> proponent (sorry - can't remember his name at the moment). In a 
> discussion after some
>
> presentations he said "LNT is almost certainly wrong, but it makes the 
> book-keeping easy."
>
> According to the final arbiter of all knowledge (Wikipedia) "Dogma is 
> a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as 
> incontrovertibly
>
> true. It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief 
> system, and it cannot be changed or discarded without affecting the 
> very system's paradigm, or the ideology itself."
>
> LNT is not scientific dogma, but it has effectively become dogma for 
> the ALARA philosophy, and near-dogma for regulatory, national, and 
> international
>
> advisory bodies. And I would say that it is certainly dogma for all of 
> the anti-nuclear and anti-radiation groups.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Franz 
> Schönhofer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:27 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing 
> List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] LNT Dogma?
>
> RADSAFErs,
>
> Anybody really knows, what a "Dogma" is? Look it up on Google. LNT 
> does not
>
> fit to this definition. Especially LNT is lively debated and not taken 
> for granted by many scientists. Therefore it cannot be called a Dogma. 
> However having been a lawmaker I confess, that the concept of LNT has 
> its great advantage!!!!! Now load your guns, fill your flaming 
> devices- I`ll be able to stand it and anyway I am used to flaming. 
> Compared to Austrian ministery
>
> intrigues this is a "sweet nothing"!
>
> Best regards!
>
> Franz
>
>
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