Re: TFP Sr-90 [Complaints]

[Jim Muckerheide <jmuckerheide@delphi.com>]

Frank, All,

Don't complain!? :-)  Send to the kill file if you don't want them. But
promise to use "TFP" in all other posts on the subject, so that others can put
THAT in their kill file. (Some readers can "kill" by thread :-), but getting
complaints is worse than getting the originals, and harder to kill!

Regards, Jim
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"Frank R. Borger_(FRB)" wrote:
> 
> >>> Franz Schoenhofer <schoenho@via.at> August 14, 2000 19:27 >>>
> >Hi, Kjell,
> >
> >It is long past midnight in Austria, so I may start to use my free e-mails
> >to RADSAFE for a new day......
> 
> You're no-where close to Norm and his faithful wife, (who never seems to post.)
> I'm getting carpal-tunnel syndrom from hitting the delete key. Half the postings to
> this list come from that electronic blabber-mouth.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Any RADSAFEr read my message up to this line? If you have, I simply state,
> >that the processes which govern the uptake and the activity concentration
> >of Sr-90 in bones (and teeth) are extremely complicated. It is not possible
> >to establish a linear relation between a hypothetical local emission (the
> >global fallout was at least rather homogeneous) and the concentration in any teeth.
> 
> Yes, I have, and I wish Norm (and the rest of the TFP people,) would.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Therefore the concept of using baby teeth (not childrens teeth!)
> >is promising. Why must it fail in a country like USA or other western
> >countries? I posted this some time ago and another RADSAFER has pointed
> >this out yesterday, that the calcium (and strontium) uptake of the baby is
> >most likely not at all related to the Sr-90 concentration in the
> >environment, where the baby is. The mother has eaten cheese from somewhere,
> >drank milk from somewhere else, had potatoes from another place, etc. etc.
> >The calcium taken up by the mother is not at all representative for the
> >area, she lives in. Her calcium plus Sr-90 taken up by her food and the
> >calcium plus Sr-90 of her skeleton, accumulated over a few decades will now
> >contribute to the skeleton of the baby. When the baby is delivered, it
> >might from mothers milk take up the same Ca-Sr mixture, or at least after
> >several months it will consume baby food, which has been mixed by
> >everything available, as pointed out by another RADSAFEr.
> 
> You've summarized the main problem with the TFP. Norm, are you reading this??????
> 
> >I deeply distain people who make their money and their "reputation" by
> >using the deeply regrettable death of children from whatever cause.
> 
> So do I, but especially in the US, lots of people have discovered that
> "There's gold in them thar ills"  Combine that with  the large number of people
> that get their science from Oprah, and you've got a match made in Hollywood.
> 
> >Norman, did you read so far? Please refrain from answering. Stop bothering us.
> 
> Everybody,
> 
> We can't keep Norm from flooding this list with his scientific fairy tales, (and keep
> a free society,) but we can tune him out, (the delete key,) and learn to not perform
> a Pavlovian response to his stimuli.
> 
> I'm more and more convinced that Norm doesn't care one whit about the facts,
> all he wants to do is poke his stick in the beehive and see what happens.
> 
> Any real epidemiologists out there, please don't be offended by my sig.
> 
> Frank R. Borger - Physicist, Gammex RMI
> fborger@gammex.com   phn: 608-828-7289 fax: 608-828-7500
> "One third of the rats were improved on the experimental
> medication, one third remained the same, and the other one
> third could not be reported on, because that rat got away."
> - Edwin Bidwell Wilson
> 
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