Re: Experimental Proof of Hormesis

["Harry Hinks" <harryhinks@hotmail.com>]

Mr. Seiller,

I don't understand your statements below.  In postings in the archives on 
this subject, I notice even Dr. Cohen does not agree with you.  How do you 
expect other people with no vested interest?

Harry Hinks
harryhinks@hotmail.com



>From: "Fritz A. Seiler" <faseiler@nmia.com>
>Reply-To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
>Subject: Experimental Proof of Hormesis
>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:18:38 -0600 (CST)
>
>Hi All,
>
>The current thread on hormesis on RADSAFE seems to imply that there is
>no valid experimental confirmation.  Well, that is what the Linear Mafia
>wants you to think!  Fortunately, wanting it does not make it so.  That
>is why that same Linear Mafia has hurled all kinds of 'bombs' at the
>Shipyard worker study and at Bernie Cohen's study of the Radon/Lung
>cancer mortality correlation.
>
>On their own merits, both experiments strongly contradict the Linear
>No-threshold (LNT) Model.  Against the Shipyard worker study, there are
>nothing except handwaving arguments without solid numerical foundation.
>Against Bernie's measurements there are a number of papers with
>arguments using non-numerical claims of confounding factors resulting in
>the "Ecological Fallacy". According to the Mafia, that fallacy makes the
>data useless for risk assessment purposes.
>
>Joe Alvarez and I have shown the fallacy argument to be invalid, and the
>raw Cohen data to be the only scientific basis for a valid risk
>assessment.  We made our case in a paper now published as a
>'Perspective' in the December issue of HERA:
>
>F.A. Seiler and J.L. Alvarez ,"Is the 'Ecological Fallacy" a
>Fallacy?" Human and Ecological Risk Assessment, vol. 6,
>921-941 (2000).
>
>By demonstrating that the use of the raw Cohen data is appropriate,
>we have also demonstrated  that the dose-effect model for human exposure
>to radon and its daughters is U-shaped and is thus NONLINEAR. Also, and
>contrary to Mafia claims, all the hormetic looking data in the
>voluminous collections of such data can now be used as such, if the
>Assumption of Equivalent Populations (definition given in paper) can be
>made.
>
>Let's face facts, hormesis is back; and this time, it is back to stay!
>
>Have a fun weekend,
>
>Fritz
>
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>
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