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radsafe-digest       Thursday, September 6 2001       Volume 01 : Number 162







In this issue:



    International Conference

    Re: News Article: Scary? You Bet It Is

    [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]

    FW: InoculateIT detected the (Win32/Magistr.24876) virus in Mailb ox (Hidalgo, Dr Oscar), Sender (Fisica Sanitaria Br-tiscali) !!!

    Re: Microwave Survey Meters

    Tc-99m

    [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]

    Re: Kursk: Potential nuclear hazards

    RF Survey Equipment

    Study Questions Class 2 Laser Safety

    Re: [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]

    RE: Kursk: Potential nuclear hazards

    Congress is back!

    Alaska Asks Feds for Radiation Tests

    medical misadventures

    Gloves For NaI

    Re: medical misadventures

    TLD Cage

    Gloves for NaI



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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:28:51 +0530 (IST)

From: Dr A K Shukla <akshukla@sgpgi.ac.in>

Subject: International Conference



Dear Members,



I have the pleasure to announce that we here at Sanjay Gandhi Postgraduate

Institute of Medical Sciences would be organizing an international

conference on the Radiological Protection of Patients in use of IOnizing

Radiation.The eminent experts and the participants from all over the world

are expected tp participate in this coneferece to share their concerns and 

views apart from discussing the critical issues related to patient safety.



We have also launched a website containing all the details regarding the

proposed conference.You may like to visi the site at the following address



 http://www.geocities.com/icrp2k2/icrp2k2.htm





We look forward for your active participation in this mega event.





With kind regards,



Sincerely Yours,





Dr.A.K.Shukla

Organizing Secretary

e-mail- akshukla@sgpgi.ac.in















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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:19:33 -0500

From: "Jack Earley" <jearley@enercon.com>

Subject: Re: News Article: Scary? You Bet It Is



Extremely valid point here. Chernobyl didn't happen until three or more

technical specifications were violated to perform the turbine run-down test.

The probability of an accident occurring rises dramatically the closer you

are to the point of danger. The likelihood of my being bitten by a water

moccasin in my office is pretty low, but the probability of my coworkers

being bitten while out walking down an environmental site approaches a

hundred percent if they don't take appropriate precautions.



Jack Earley

Radiological Engineer



Enercon Services, Inc.

6525 N. Meridian, Suite 503

OKC, OK  73116

phone: 405-722-7693

fax:       405-722-7694

jearley@enercon.com



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- ----- Original Message -----

From: "Bjorn Cedervall" <bcradsafers@HOTMAIL.COM>

To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: September 02, 2001 6:30 p.m.

Subject: Re: News Article: Scary? You Bet It Is





> >I read this opinion pieced in today's Washington Post, and thought I

should

> >pass it along.  If you substitute nuclear power for shark, I think you

will

> >find the parallels interesting.  To view the entire article, go to

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27513-2001Aug31.html

> ---------

> This was definitely worth the reading time. One aspect that the author

(Fred

> Barbash) touches several times is the issue of averages and statistics.

> These numbers can become quite irrelevant when you actually are exposed to

a

> high risk. Say that the average number of people being killed annually by

> lightening or shark bites or whatever. An incidence number describing such

> events are small (say about less than 1/100 000 or so annually - I don't

> have the numbers available at this time - the point here is just that the

> average probability is very low).

>

> This contrasts dramatically the situation when you actually are swimming

in

> the coastal waters of Florida or South Carolina (I have tried both but

will

> be more careful in the future) or if you insist to play football while

rain

> and thunder storm is present. Large parts of the population may not be

> exposed to the risk at all - because they live in areas where lightening

or

> shark are either absent or rare - or they hardly ever expose themselves to

> the risk (but some encounters can be quite unexpected - like the pygmy

> rattler at Walmart in Hammond, LA, which bit somebody looking at potted

> flowers in April this year

> http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/crotalid/messages/7451.html - wonder who

you

> make meaningful statistical models for that).

>

> Just my reflections,

>

> Bjorn Cedervall    bcradsafers@hotmail.com

>

>

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:10:23 -0400

From: William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

Subject: [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]



- -------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: medical misadministrations

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:00:09 -0400

From: "Thomas J Savin " <tjsav@lycos.com>

Reply-To: tjsav@lycos.com

Organization: Lycos Mail  (http://mail.lycos.com:80)

To: "William V Lipton" <liptonw@dteenergy.com>



Sure, -  I really do not know what is being done about this - I saw this

morning that the pharmicist who diluted the chemo therapy drugs may have

done it with two other drugs - so much for establishing public

confidence.



Tom  





On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:50:25  

 William V Lipton wrote:

>Many thanx for your response.  May I post this to RADSAFE?

>Bill

>

>

>Thomas J Savin wrote:

>

>> HI Bill,

>>

>> This is an excellent question, but I would like to know if there is an estimate of how many incidences go unreported?

>> ---

>> Tom Savin

>>

>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:31:46

>>  William V Lipton wrote:

>> >I'll dare to use the "e" word, again.  There seems to be an epidemic of

>> >medical misadminstrations, that seem mostly due to human error:

>> >

>> >8/7/96 - 10/18/00 - Providence Hospital, Washington, DC - 14

>> >misadministrations where approximately 3000 rads was delivered with

>> >1200-1500 rads prescribed with a Sr-90 eye applicator.

>> >

>> >8/31/01 - St. Mary's Hospital, Rochester, MN - delivered dose from Co-60

>> >gamma knife 39% greater than prescribed due to timer entry error.

>> >

>> >8/31/01 - University of Kansas Hospital, Kansas City, KS - Technician

>> >administered wrong radionuclide to patient.

>> >

>> >(I'm not counting the 8/21/01 misadministration at Wyoming Medical

>> >Center, where the misadministration resulted from highly technical

>> >issues.)

>> >

>> >I'd be interested to know whether the medical hp's are doing anything to

>> >improve human performance in this area.

>> >

>> >BTW:  I don't buy the previous excuses, when I raised this issue, that,

>> >"It's not my job."  According to the HPS Prospectus, "The Society is a

>> >professional organization whose mission is to promote the practice of

>> >radiation safety..."  This seems to be one area where "the practice of

>> >radiation safety" seems to need improvement.

>> >

>> >The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

>> >It's not about dose, it's about trust.

>> >

>> >Bill Lipton

>> >liptonw@dteenergy.com

>> >

>> >

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:19:51 -0500 

From: "Hidalgo, Dr Oscar" <OscarH@marybird.com>

Subject: FW: InoculateIT detected the (Win32/Magistr.24876) virus in Mailb ox (Hidalgo, Dr Oscar), Sender (Fisica Sanitaria Br-tiscali) !!!



WARNING!  To anyone that got an e-mail from Fisica Sanitaria Br-tiscali last

night or early this morning, my computer is telling me that there was a

virus in that e-mail.  





Oscar Hidalgo-Salvatierra, PhD, DABR

Radiation Therapy Physicist / RSO

Mary Bird Perkins Cancer Center

Baton Rouge, LA 70807

Oscarh@marybird.com <mailto:Oscarh@marybird.com> 

Hidalgo1@home.com <mailto:Hidalgo1@home.com>  



- -----Original Message-----

From:	Hidalgo, Dr Oscar 

Sent:	Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:50 AM

To:	Hidalgo, Dr Oscar

Subject:	InoculateIT detected the (Win32/Magistr.24876) virus in

Mailbox (Hidalgo, Dr Oscar), Sender (Fisica Sanitaria Br-tiscali) !!!



The (Win32/Magistr.24876) virus was detected in (Hidalgo, Dr

Oscar\OEMRNCE.EXE) and was sent by (Fisica Sanitaria Br-tiscali). Action:

(File was Deleted.).

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:07:31 -0700

From: Chuck Cooper <ccc@pp.pdx.edu>

Subject: Re: Microwave Survey Meters



The Holaday meters are geared for Microwave ovens at 2.4

GHz, you want more general purpose RF measurement instrument.



Basic 0-12 GHz RF meter:

http://www.digifield.com/home.html (about $250)

Buy online: http://www.lessemf.com/129.html



Geek lust meter (for transmitter diagnostics primarily):

http://www.lashen.com/vendors/protek/3201RFMeter.asp

($2000)







Rick Mannix wrote:



> Several telecommunications companies will be installing "cell sites" on the

> roofs of a couple of buildings on our campus in the near future. Both

> cellular radio services antennas (800 or 900 MHz) and Personal

> Communications Service (PCS) antennas (1850 - 2000 MHz) will be involved.

>

> We are looking into purchasing a survey meter capable of obtaining electric

> field, magnetic field, and power density (mW/cm2) readings near these

> antennas and in surrounding areas (in the rooms below, etc.). [We expect

> the readings obtained in occupied areas to be low and the related hazards

> to be minimal.] This survey meter will also be useful in monitoring other

> microwave operations on campus.

>

> I know that Holaday sells equipment such as this. Does anybody know of any

> other vendors for microwave survey meters?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Rick Mannix

> Health Physicist

> Laser Safety Officer

> University of California

> EH&S Office

> 4600 Bison Ave.

> Irvine, CA 92697-2725



Chuck Cooper

Dir. EH&S

Portland State University







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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:31:04 -0400

From: Lorna Hubble <ljb1@CORNELL.EDU>

Subject: Tc-99m



Does anyone know of some sources of Tc-99m (sodium pertechnetate)?  Our Vet 

Nuclear Medicine program normally gets it delivered from a company in 

Sayre, PA, which apparently is running short this week.  Any suggestions 

are welcome.  Please respond directly back to me.  Thanks!



Lorna

***********************************************************************

Any statement above is 100% my responsibility.

Don't blame Cornell!

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Lorna Hubble (Bullerwell)		Phone:  (607) 255-8816

Radiological Safety Specialist	Fax:  (607) 255-8267

Cornell University			mailto:ljb1@cornell.edu

Department of Environmental Health and Safety

Laboratory and Radiation Safety Section

125 Humphreys Service Building,  Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:38:11 -0400

From: William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

Subject: [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]



This is posted with permission of the sender.

Bill





- -------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: medical misadministrations

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:43:31 -0500

From: "Ray Wery" <Rayw@waushosp.org>

To: <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>



Mr Lipton



I believe that the standard procedure is for the licensee to conduct an

evaluation of all medical misadministrations, analyze causes, and

produce a plan of action that will address the problems found and act on

them.  This will, in most cases, involve everyone involved in the

radiation safety program.

Do you have any information that this does not occur?  

Do you have any information that there are similar incidents occurring

and Radiation Safety personnel are ignoring the issue?  

You seem to have an opinion that "medical HP's" are not providing

professional services because misadministrations occur.  I believe that

you can find information on error analysis of medical misadministrations

if you look.  For example:

Radiation injury from x-ray exposure during brachytherapy localization.

Med Phys 2000 Jul;27(7):1681-1684.  

Thomadsen BR, Paliwal BR, Petereit DG, Ranallo FN



I do not offer any excuses,  radiation safety personnel should assist in

the design of procedures that will ensure that services are delivered as

prescribed.  When problems arise they should design changes to reduce

the likelihood of the problem arising again, while not creating

additional problems.  I do not believe that the identification of

problems indicate that HP's are not doing their job.





Ray Wery, M.S., D.A.B.R.

Medical Physicist/Radiation Safety Officer

Wausau Hospital

Wausau, WI   54401

715-847-2292

rayw@waushosp.org



>>> William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM> 09/05/01 06:31AM >>>

I'll dare to use the "e" word, again.  There seems to be an epidemic of

medical misadminstrations, that seem mostly due to human error:



8/7/96 - 10/18/00 - Providence Hospital, Washington, DC - 14

misadministrations where approximately 3000 rads was delivered with

1200-1500 rads prescribed with a Sr-90 eye applicator.



8/31/01 - St. Mary's Hospital, Rochester, MN - delivered dose from Co-60

gamma knife 39% greater than prescribed due to timer entry error.



8/31/01 - University of Kansas Hospital, Kansas City, KS - Technician

administered wrong radionuclide to patient.



(I'm not counting the 8/21/01 misadministration at Wyoming Medical

Center, where the misadministration resulted from highly technical

issues.)



I'd be interested to know whether the medical hp's are doing anything to

improve human performance in this area.



BTW:  I don't buy the previous excuses, when I raised this issue, that,

"It's not my job."  According to the HPS Prospectus, "The Society is a

professional organization whose mission is to promote the practice of

radiation safety..."  This seems to be one area where "the practice of

radiation safety" seems to need improvement.



The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

It's not about dose, it's about trust.



Bill Lipton

liptonw@dteenergy.com 





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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:44:53 -0400 (EDT)

From: BERNARD L COHEN <blc+@PITT.EDU>

Subject: Re: Kursk: Potential nuclear hazards



On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Bjorn Cedervall wrote:

>

> Now, on page 15 it says that the reactor is pressurized by gas (argon or

> nitrogen). -Reserve gas? I don't understand how this gas comes into the

> picture. Can anyone explain?



	--In a PWR, the pressure is regulated by the pressurizer which has

water from the reactor in the bottom and gas in the top. The interface is

kept in sight so one knows that the water pressure is equal to the gas

pressure which is easily measured and regulated. The pressurizer gained

notoriety in the TMI accident because it was filled with water and no

interface was visible. The operators interpreted this as meaning that

there was too much water in the reactor and hence they throttled back

(almost shut down) the emergency cooling water. But the reason the

pressurizer was filled with water was that the exit valve was stuck open

so water was pouring out thru the pressurizer. Thus the water was lost and

not replaced.



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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:57:39 -0700

From: Rick Mannix <rcmannix@UCI.EDU>

Subject: RF Survey Equipment



I received this price quote from Narda. Seems like a good equipment, but

quite pricey.



Rick Mannix

U Cal Irvine





>Hi Rick,

>Thank you for contacting the Narda Microwave web site regarding RF Safety

>Products.  Per you inquiry for making measurements in multi-emitter

>environments, we offer RF Survey Systems specifically designed for this

>application. 

> 

>The probes designed for this environment read out in Percent of Standard as

>opposed to power density.  The reason for this is that different frequencies

>have different MPE (Maximum Permissible Exposure) limits.  For example; you

>have two transmitting antennas on your rooftop, one at 800MHz, whose MPE

>limit for the FCC OET Bulletin 65 Standard is 2.67mW/cm2 and one at 1.9GHz

>whose MPE limit is 5mW/cm2.  If the meter is reading 3.5mW/cm2(power

>density) you will NOT be able to determine if you are within the limits of

>the standard.  This is because you will not be able to determine what each

>individual antennas contribution to the reading is.  

> 

>We have two probes to offer that are used specifically for compliance to the

>FCC OET Bulletin 65 Standard.  One of these is model A8742D which is an

>E-field probe that operates from 300KHz to 3GHz.  The other is the A8722D

>which is also an E-field probe.  This model operates from 300KHz to 50GHz.

>The A8722D probe would cover the frequency range of any microwave antennas

>that could be present on your rooftops.  Both probes can be used with any of

>the 8700 series of hand held digital meters.  The meters I would recommend

>for your application would be either model 8712 or model 8715.  The only

>difference between the two meters is that the 8715 has the capability to do

>spatial averaging. 

> 

>The prices for the probes and meters mentioned above are as follows:

> 

>A8742D Probe            $3,900

>A8722D Probe            $5,200

>8712 Meter                 $2,350

>8715 Meter                 $3,950

> 

>If you have any questions regarding any of the equipment, please don't

>hesitate to contact me.

>

>Best Regards, 

>

>Kathy Burns 

>

>Applications Engineer 

>RF Safety Products 

>kathy.burns@L-3com.com <mailto:kathy.burns@L-3com.com>  

>phone: 631-231-1700 ext. 328 

>fax: 631-231-1711 

>http://www.narda-sts.com <http://www.nardamicrowave.com/>  

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:26:27 -0400

From: joseph.greco@kodak.com

Subject: Study Questions Class 2 Laser Safety



From: Joseph M. Greco



The following may be of interest to the laser safety community.



J. M. Greco, CHP

Eastman Kodak Company

joseph.greco@kodak.com



_______________________________



Optics.org - news ? Study questions Class 2 safety

Exclusive from Opto & Laser Europe (OLE) magazine,   E-mail info@optics.org



The eye's blink reflex cannot be regarded as protection against

overexposure to laser radiation, according to a German researcher.

Hans-Dieter Reidenbach from the University of Cologne found that the eye's

blink reflex does not exist for coherent light sources. He says that his

findings mean that Class 2 lasers can now no longer be regarded as safe and

that greater care should be taken when using low-power lasers.



The current laser-safety standards are based on the assumption that most

people have a blink reflex that closes the eye before 250 ms of exposure.

This figure, however, was calculated using flashlamps more than 40 years

ago during atom-bomb research.



"Our original work used incoherent radiation, such as a camera flashlight,

which confirmed that most people have a  blink reflex. When we tried the

same experiment with lasers, we found that less than 20% of our volunteers

exhibited a blink reflex when illuminated by a laser with a power of

between 0.8 and 1.0 mW and at wavelengths of 670, 635 and 532 nm," said

Reidenbach.



In fact, at 670 nm none of the volunteers showed a blink reflex. Reidenbach

admits that he finds his own results surprising and he plans to conduct

more research to verify these findings. "We tested 200 volunteers at the

Laser exhibition in June and we want to test a total of 1000 people," he

said.



He has a hypothesis to explain the results: "I believe the difference is

the picture on the retina. A laser produces a small dot of about 10 to 15

µm in diameter, whereas a flashlight gives a dot of about 1 mm in diameter,

thus illuminating the entire fovea. Every cell in the fovea contributes 1

pA of current and you need to pass a certain threshold to achieve a blink

reflex."



Reidenbach's results have been met with scepticism from laser-safety

experts. Karl Schulmeister from the Austrian Research Centre in

Seibersdorf, Austria, has been involved in the development of the new

edition of the international laser-safety standard and took part in

Reidenbach's study. He said: "I do not want it to be said that Class 2

lasers are unsafe. This is not true. There is a large safety margin built

into the standards and Reidenbach's work does not change this."



Schulmeister also questioned Reidenbach's test method. "The volunteers were

told that they would be targeted, so they were not startled when it

happened. The blink reflex works much better when the subject is surprised

by the laser beam."

David O'Brart, a consultant ophthalmologist at St Thomas's Hospital in the

UK, agrees. "The fact that people know that the laser beam is coming could

affect the result. However, Reidenbach's work does raise several issues

regarding the blink reflex and laser safety, and these issues need to be

addressed."





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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:16:28 -0400

From: William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: medical misadministrations]



In fact, when I brought up this issue, earlier, I remember some responses from

hp's indicating that they did not consider preventing medical

misadministrations to be their responsibility.



I'm sure that misadministrations are investigated, but the continuing

occurrence of these events indicates that not enough is being done.  A good

program must be proactive as well as reactive.  Also, and this is pure

speculation on my part, I suspect that hospitals do not have an adequate

program to share information on these events.  Thus, each licensee has to

learn its lessons the hard way.  (The easy way is when it happens to someone

else, the hard way is when it happens to you.)



The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

It's not about dose, it's about trust.



Bill Lipton

liptonw@dteenergy.com







William V Lipton wrote:



> This is posted with permission of the sender.

> Bill

>

> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: Re: medical misadministrations

> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:43:31 -0500

> From: "Ray Wery" <Rayw@waushosp.org>

> To: <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

>

> Mr Lipton

>

> I believe that the standard procedure is for the licensee to conduct an

> evaluation of all medical misadministrations, analyze causes, and

> produce a plan of action that will address the problems found and act on

> them.  This will, in most cases, involve everyone involved in the

> radiation safety program.

> Do you have any information that this does not occur?

> Do you have any information that there are similar incidents occurring

> and Radiation Safety personnel are ignoring the issue?

> You seem to have an opinion that "medical HP's" are not providing

> professional services because misadministrations occur.  I believe that

> you can find information on error analysis of medical misadministrations

> if you look.  For example:

> Radiation injury from x-ray exposure during brachytherapy localization.

> Med Phys 2000 Jul;27(7):1681-1684.

> Thomadsen BR, Paliwal BR, Petereit DG, Ranallo FN

>

> I do not offer any excuses,  radiation safety personnel should assist in

> the design of procedures that will ensure that services are delivered as

> prescribed.  When problems arise they should design changes to reduce

> the likelihood of the problem arising again, while not creating

> additional problems.  I do not believe that the identification of

> problems indicate that HP's are not doing their job.

>

> Ray Wery, M.S., D.A.B.R.

> Medical Physicist/Radiation Safety Officer

> Wausau Hospital

> Wausau, WI   54401

> 715-847-2292

> rayw@waushosp.org

>

> >>> William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM> 09/05/01 06:31AM >>>

> I'll dare to use the "e" word, again.  There seems to be an epidemic of

> medical misadminstrations, that seem mostly due to human error:

>

> 8/7/96 - 10/18/00 - Providence Hospital, Washington, DC - 14

> misadministrations where approximately 3000 rads was delivered with

> 1200-1500 rads prescribed with a Sr-90 eye applicator.

>

> 8/31/01 - St. Mary's Hospital, Rochester, MN - delivered dose from Co-60

> gamma knife 39% greater than prescribed due to timer entry error.

>

> 8/31/01 - University of Kansas Hospital, Kansas City, KS - Technician

> administered wrong radionuclide to patient.

>

> (I'm not counting the 8/21/01 misadministration at Wyoming Medical

> Center, where the misadministration resulted from highly technical

> issues.)

>

> I'd be interested to know whether the medical hp's are doing anything to

> improve human performance in this area.

>

> BTW:  I don't buy the previous excuses, when I raised this issue, that,

> "It's not my job."  According to the HPS Prospectus, "The Society is a

> professional organization whose mission is to promote the practice of

> radiation safety..."  This seems to be one area where "the practice of

> radiation safety" seems to need improvement.

>

> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

> It's not about dose, it's about trust.

>

> Bill Lipton

> liptonw@dteenergy.com

>

>



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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:29:38 -0400 

From: "Bauman, Rodney L. (84U) " <84u@BECHTELJACOBS.ORG>

Subject: RE: Kursk: Potential nuclear hazards



During operation, a PWR's pressurizer contains water covered by a steam

bubble - not pressurized noble gasses.  By either expanding (by electric

heaters) or collapsing (by water spray) the steam bubble, the pressurizer is

capable of regulating the reactor coolant system's (RCS) pressure.  This

steam bubble "goes away" during RCS cool-down/depressurization.  This is

what is commonly termed "going solid."



I do not know why the Kursk's reactors required pressurized gas that would

still be present after shutdown/cool-down.  Maybe it has something to do

with the control rod drive units.  Control rods entering a reactor core from

underneath normally utilize pressurized gas to drive rods during a reactor

scrams (however, I don't know if the pressurized gas is used for every

reactor scram or just those coincident with a loss of AC power). 



Rodney Bauman, CHP, RRPT

Bechtel Jacobs Company, LLC

Project Health Physicist

ETTP and Y-12 Waste Operations

Y-12 Plant Bldg. 9624, MS 8222

Voice: 865.241.5344

Pager: 865.417.0561

Fax: 865.576.3946

84u@bechteljacobs.org



> -----Original Message-----

> From:	BERNARD L COHEN [SMTP:blc+@PITT.EDU]

> Sent:	Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:45 PM

> To:	Bjorn Cedervall

> Cc:	internet RADSAFE

> Subject:	Re: Kursk: Potential nuclear hazards

> 

> 

> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Bjorn Cedervall wrote:

> >

> > Now, on page 15 it says that the reactor is pressurized by gas (argon or

> > nitrogen). -Reserve gas? I don't understand how this gas comes into the

> > picture. Can anyone explain?

> 

> 	--In a PWR, the pressure is regulated by the pressurizer which has

> water from the reactor in the bottom and gas in the top. The interface is

> kept in sight so one knows that the water pressure is equal to the gas

> pressure which is easily measured and regulated. The pressurizer gained

> notoriety in the TMI accident because it was filled with water and no

> interface was visible. The operators interpreted this as meaning that

> there was too much water in the reactor and hence they throttled back

> (almost shut down) the emergency cooling water. But the reason the

> pressurizer was filled with water was that the exit valve was stuck open

> so water was pouring out thru the pressurizer. Thus the water was lost and

> not replaced.

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:37:18 -0400

From: Susan Gawarecki <loc@ICX.NET>

Subject: Congress is back!



>From the Energy Communities Alliance "Monday Update"



Congress is back from recess and the budget battle resumes.  October 1

is the beginning of the next fiscal year, and currently none of the

appropriations bills have been sent to the President.  Also, the OMB and

CBO have both released budget figures noting reduced surplus

estimates--sure to make the appropriations process even more

contentious.   



The Energy and Water Development Appropriations (HR 2311) is

awaitingConference Committee consideration. [Note: This will determine

FY2002 Environmental Management program funding for Oak Ridge and the

rest of the DOE complex.]



PRICE ANDERSON ACT REAUTHORIZATION



Sep. 6 - House Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Energy and Air

Quality, 2:00 PM  2322 Rayburn Reauthorization of Price-Anderson Act

You can view the hearing online from the Committee's web site at:

http://www.house.gov/commerce

Note:  This hearing was originally scheduled for Sep. 7 at 9:30 AM.

 

The ECA sent a letter to Congressman Joe Barton, Chair of the House

Energy and Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality

stating ECA's support for a simple renewal of the Price-Anderson Act. 

The letter says in part:



"To date, much of the debate surrounding Price-Anderson has focused on

nuclear utilities and the protection it provides to communities around

nuclear power plants.  While this is an important aspect of the Act, the

impact of the legislation's expiration on the municipalitites ECA

represents has gone largely unnoticed.  Expiration of Price-Anderson

would have repercussions on DOE, its contractors and the communities

impacted by DOE facilities.  Price-Anderson's unique coverage extends

not only to DOE contractors, but also to subcontractors and suppliers. 

In some ECA members communities, municipal departments that provide fire

protection and emergency services to DOE rely on Price-Anderson

protections.  Without this coverage, these communities would be liable

in the event of an accident."



Energy Communities Alliance (ECA) is the membership organization of

local governments that are adjacent to or impacted by Department of

Energy activities.  For more information on ECA, visit the ECA Web Site

at http://www.energyca.org.

- -- 

.....................................................

Susan L. Gawarecki, Ph.D., Executive Director

Oak Ridge Reservation Local Oversight Committee

                       -----                       

A schedule of meetings on DOE issues is posted on our Web site

http://www.local-oversight.org/meetings.html - E-mail loc@icx.net

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:32:13 -0700

From: "Sandy Perle" <sandyfl@EARTHLINK.NET>

Subject: Alaska Asks Feds for Radiation Tests



Index:



Alaska Asks Feds for Radiation Tests

UK minister mulls allowing new nuclear power plants

MHI to join Westinghouse project to develop nuke reactor

EU report calls for close look at Czech nuke plant

Hiroshima Bomber to Be Restored

Russians flee raising of "radioactive" sub Kursk

Illinois Accepts Closed American Ecology Disposal Site

Japan urge tangible progress on nuclear issue with Pakistan

Study finds J&J coated stent completely effective

===================================



Alaska Asks Feds for Radiation Tests



ANCHORAGE, Alaska Sept 5 (AP) - Alaska's environmental officials have 

asked the U.S. Department of Energy to investigate possible radiation 

contamination on and around Amchitka Island, where the military 

exploded atomic devices from 1965 to 1971. 



In a letter to Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham last month, the state 

said a thorough assessment is needed to reassure Alaska natives on 

other Aleutian islands that subsistence foods are safe. Amchitka is 

uninhabited, but people who live on nearby islands rely on fishing 

and hunting. 



The energy department has said it has found no evidence that buried 

radiation from the tests may be leaching to the surface or into the 

ocean. But the agency has conducted no tests for radiation there 

since the 1970s, state officials say. 



Two years ago, the energy department agreed to finance a medical 

surveillance program for people who worked on the island during the 

atomic era, and Congress has funded a benefits program for former 

Amchitka workers who later developed radiation-related cancers. 

- -------------------



UK minister mulls allowing new nuclear power plants

  

ABERDEEN, Scotland, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Britain's government review of 

energy policy will consider the possibility of new nuclear power 

stations built by the private sector, Energy Minister Brian Wilson 

said on Wednesday. 



Although none has been built for 14 years, Wilson said there was no 

moratorium on building new nuclear reactors in Britain, unlike some 

European countries. And the country faces some stark options as the 

existing stations near the end of their life. 



"The review will have to ask the question of whether there is a place 

for nuclear new build," he told Reuters at an oil industry exhibition 

in Aberdeen. 



Britain launched a review of its energy policy in July to tackle the 

problems of increasingly strict emissions targets, growing reliance 

on imported energy, and the expected decommissioning most of its 

nuclear plants within 20 years. 



The powerful environmental lobby is opposed to atomic power because 

of its radiation risks, but nuclear helps Britain meet strict carbon 

dioxide emissions targets because it does not create pollution 

suspected of contributing to global warming. 



"The question needs to be asked because nuclear accounts for 25 

percent of the UK's electricity and if you lose nuclear and at the 

same time you are trying to reduce emissions, it is difficult to 

square that circle," Wilson added. 



Britain's governing Labour Party was fiercely anti-nuclear in the 

1970s and 1980s, but the current government has distanced itself from 

that policy, despite continued popular opposition. 



Wilson said there was no question of the government building a new 

station itself, as it is seeking private sector solutions to power 

generation. 



"The question is whether someone will make the commercial decision to 

build new stations as the existing ones approach the end of their 

lives," he said. 



State-owned British Nuclear Fuels is already in preliminary talks 

with the government regulator about building a new reactor ahead of 

the conclusion of the government's energy review at the end of this 

year. 



The government plans to sell a 49 percent stake in British Nuclear 

Fuels. 



Wilson said the review had yet to reveal its findings, but said he 

personally supported nuclear power. 



"I am supportive of the contribution of nuclear power, but my 

personal preferences aren't the determining factor," he said. 

- -----------------



MHI to join Westinghouse project to develop nuke reactor



TOKYO, Sept. 5 (Kyodo) - Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. (MHI) said 

Wednesday it has reached a basic agreement to join a project by 

Westinghouse Electric Co. of the United States to develop a new 1,000-

megawatt nuclear reactor. 



MHI said in a press release that Westinghouse is aiming to receive 

design certification for the new advanced pressurized water reactor, 

called the AP1000, from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission by the 

end of 2004. 



The two companies will finalize the contract by the end of this year, 

MHI said. 



The AP1000 will be based on Westinghouse's existing 600-megawatt 

reactor, the AP600. 



MHI also said the development program involves Electricite de France 

and British Nuclear Fuels PLC, and that MHI will be involved in the 

development and design of the AP1000's reactor core, system and 

equipment. 

- -------------------



EU report calls for close look at Czech nuke plant

  

STRASBOURG, Sept 5 (Reuters) - The European Parliament on Wednesday 

called for a careful examination of the environmental impact from a 

controversial Czech nuclear plant, potentially paving the way for its 

closure. 



The Temelin plant has been at the centre of a heated debate between 

the Czech Republic and Austria, which opposes nuclear power and views 

the plant -- located near its border -- as an environmental threat. 



The Czech Republic is one of the candidate countries keen to join the 

15-nation European Union. The European Parliament adopted a broad 

report assessing progress made by the Czechs in all fields to achieve 

its candidacy, including a call for a new analysis of risks posed by 

the nuclear plant. 



The report suggests that the new analysis, to be conducted by the EU, 

consider closing the plant. The shutdown should be considered because 

of concerns about the safety of its structure and a worrying lack of 

data on its environmental impact. 



Green party members who have successfully fought for the inclusion of 

the Temelin issue in the country report, welcomed the Parliament's 

vote. 



"Temelin is an EU problem. This is an offer to the Czechs to find a 

EU solution," Austrian parliamentarian Mercedes Echerer told Reuters. 

"One way of doing it could be shutting it down." 



The Parliament's vote means that the Czech Republic will have to 

respond to concerns about the safety of the plant when it starts 

incorporating the EU legislation for energy and environment. 



The report also calls for an international forum to evaluate the 

price-tag for closing the plant, suggesting it may be possible to 

hold a donors' conference to help the Czech Republic meet the costs. 



The Greens said they hoped the Temelin debate would spark a broader 

discussion on the state of nuclear plants in the accession countries, 

most of which are former Soviet satellites. 



Many of the plants were built during the years of communism and do 

not meet strict EU safety standards. Closing them would be costly to 

the 12 countries which are candidates to become EU members. 

- -----------------



Hiroshima Bomber to Be Restored



WASHINGTON (AP) - The Enola Gay, the plane used in the bombing of 

Hiroshima, is headed for restoration and then display two years from 

now, much as it looked in 1945. 



The plane that ushered in the atomic age was loaded aboard a flatbed 

trailer Wednesday for transport to a storage and restoration facility 

in Suitland, Md. 



In recent years, the front portion of the plane was seen by about 4 

million visitors at the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and 

Space Museum on the National Mall. That display followed the 

cancellation of a larger and bitterly contested exhibit about the 

birth of the nuclear age. 



The plane will not be seen publicly again until December 2003 when it 

will become a centerpiece of the Smithsonian's new Udvar-Hazy Center 

near Dulles International Airport in Chantilly, Va. 



``Enola Gay is significant in its own right because of the mission it 

flew,'' said Thomas M. Alison, chief of collections at the Air and 

Space Museum. On Aug. 6 1945, the plane's nine-member crew made 

history when they dropped the 9,700-pound atomic bomb ``Little Boy'' 

on Hiroshima, Japan. 



The blast killed 66,000 people and injured as many others. 



``We're going to have the opportunity to put the whole aircraft 

together and on display for visitors to see,'' said Alison. The 

aluminum-skinned bomber will appear much the same as when it rolled 

off an assembly line at the Martin Aircraft Company plant in Omaha, 

Neb., in June, 1945. 



On the Hiroshima flight, much of the plane's heavy armor plate was 

left off to enable it to fly higher and farther than most of the 

nearly 4,000 Boeing B-29 Superfortresses manufactured during the war.



``Enola Gay has less than 200 hours flying time,'' said Alison. The 

typical B-29 spent thousands of hours in combat. The Norden 

bombsight, the original propellers, and much of the internal 

components used during the historic mission will be part of the 

restored aircraft. 



When the $300 million Udvar-Hazy center opens, the plane will be 

displayed among more than 180 aircraft, 100 spacecraft and related 

artifacts spanning a century of aviation history. 



They include the prototype space shuttle orbiter ``Enterprise,'' 

bomber and fighter aircraft from World War I through the Persian Gulf 

War, and experimental aircraft. The shuttle-borne Spacelab module 

will be on display. 



The Enola Gay got its name from its pilot, Paul W. Tibbets Jr., in 

honor of his mother. 



The historic Enola Gay: 



Manufactured by Martin Aircraft Company of Omaha, Neb., under 

licensing agreement with the Boeing Aircraft Co. 



Designated B-29-45-MO by the U.S. Army Air Corps when delivered on 

June, 15, 1945, it was named Enola Gay by Col. Paul W. Tibbets Jr. in 

honor of his mother. 



Wingspan 141 feet; length 99 feet; net weight (empty) 69,000 lbs; 

gross weight (loaded) 140,000 lbs. 



Postwar service included ``Operation Crossroads'' atomic testing 

program in the Pacific. It was transferred to the Smithsonian 

Institution on July 4, 1949. 

- ------------------



Russians flee raising of "radioactive" sub Kursk



ROSLYAKOVO, Russia Sept 5 (Reuters) - Russian naval officer Alexei 

Zaishely picks up a bag and walks with his wife and baby to the bus 

stop in their remote Arctic village, where the Kursk submarine will 

be hauled into dry dock this month. 



Zaishely is one of several men sending their families away from run-

down Roslyakovo on the Barents Sea to escape the radiation risk they 

fear from the return of the 18,000-tonne wreck from the seabed. 



"I'm not afraid for myself, you see," said Zaishely's wife Nina, as 

she left to stay with relatives in central Russia. "I fear for my 

baby, who has his whole life ahead of him and I'm responsible for his 

health. 



"That is why we decided to leave this place and stay away until the 

situation becomes clear." 



President Vladimir Putin has pledged to raise the Kursk to allow 

decent burials for the 118 crewmen who died on board and to try to 

find out what sank one of the Russia's most advanced submarines last 

August. 



He also says Russia has an obligation to get the Kursk's two nuclear 

reactors off the seabed and out of busy fishing lanes used by Russia 

and its Scandinavian neighbors. 



But the people of tiny Roslyakovo and many of the 380,000 residents 

along the coast in Murmansk -- the largest city above the Arctic 

Circle -- say the salvage jeopardizes their future. 



"There have been several emergency situations during ordinary repair 

work on ships and submarines in dock," Zaishely said. "But to move a 

submarine with such damage to the dock safely ... well, I think it 

could be dangerous." 



Officials insist the project is safe and have erected an electronic 

sign in Roslyakovo to display radiation levels. They say they have a 

contingency plan to bus residents to Murmansk should any radiation 

problems arise. 



But the locals are unconvinced. 



"What that electronic board shows is rubbish," said local man Edik 

Kononchuk. "The real levels are different." 



RELATIVES WANT ACTION ON BOTCHED RESCUE 



Russia has promised to make the salvage a model of media openness, 

after withering criticism last year for its confused handling of the 

nation's worst submarine disaster. 



The navy initially took two days to reveal a "malfunction" on board 

the Kursk, then delivered a rash of contradictory statements while 

refusing to accept foreign help in the attempted rescue of any 

surviving crew. 



A note found on the body of Dmitry Kolesnikov, one of a dozen men 

whose bodies were brought to the surface last autumn, showed that 

some of the crew had survived for at least a few hours after two 

explosions in the Kursk's torpedo bay. 



"The people guilty of not saving them should be punished," 

Kolesnikov's father Roman told Ekho Moskvy radio Wednesday, adding 

that many victims' relatives had signed a letter to Putin and the 

prosecutor general asking them to open a criminal case over the 

matter. 



Some in Roslyakovo said the authorities were taking more risks to try 

to atone for last year's mistakes. 



"We fear for our kids but where could we go?" said resident Anna 

Zvezdina, adding that not everyone could afford to leave town. 



Olga Lapina, another local woman, said the future was bleak. "Soon 

people in this town will start dying off like flies and no one will 

tell us the reason." 

- --------------



Illinois Accepts Closed American Ecology Disposal Site

  

BOISE, Idaho--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 5, 2001-- 



State custody decision reaffirms American Ecology's ability to 



safely close and stabilize radioactive waste disposal facilities in 



compliance with state and federal requirements 



Jack Lemley, President, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of 

American Ecology Corporation (Nasdaq:ECOL), today announced that the 

Illinois Department of Nuclear Safety has accepted permanent custody 

of the low-level radioactive waste ("LLRW") disposal site operated by 

subsidiary US Ecology, Inc. from 1968 to 1978. "This marks only the 

second time a LLRW disposal facility has been successfully closed, 

stabilized, and returned to a state nuclear regulatory agency for 

long-term institutional control," Lemley stated. In 1997, the State 

of Nevada accepted transfer of US Ecology's Beatty, Nevada LLRW 

disposal facility. 



"Illinois' acceptance of the Sheffield site represents a significant 

milestone for American Ecology Corporation, subsidiary US Ecology, 

and the nuclear industry in general," Lemley said, adding "This 

demonstrates the strong commitment of our company and the industry to 

responsibly manage the wastes produced by society's beneficial uses 

of radioactive materials." 



Thomas W. Ortciger, Director of the Illinois Department of Nuclear 

Safety, accepted transfer of the radioactive waste disposal site on 

August 10, 2001, in accordance with a 1988 court-approved settlement 

agreement. Return of the site to the Department begins the final 

phase of the closely regulated life cycle of a LLRW disposal 

facility. 



American Ecology Corporation, through its subsidiaries, provides a 

variety of radioactive, PCB, hazardous and non-hazardous waste 

services to commercial and government customers throughout the United 

States, such as nuclear power plants, medical and academic 

institutions, steel mills and petro-chemical facilities. 

Headquartered in Boise, Idaho, the Company is the oldest radioactive 

and hazardous waste services company in the United States. 

- ------------------



Japan urge tangible progress on nuclear issue with Pakistan



ISLAMABAD, Sept. 5 (Kyodo) - Japanese Ambassador to Pakistan Sadaaki 

Numata on Wednesday said ''tangible progress'' to resolve matters 

relating to nuclear proliferation would facilitate the resumption of 

Japanese economic aid to Pakistan, suspended since 1998 in protest 

against Pakistani nuclear tests. 



Numata told a press conference jointly addressed by members of the 

Pakistan-Japan Business Forum that Japan wanted to help Pakistan in 

tiding over its economic difficulties but has a national policy that 

bars aid to a country that carried out nuclear tests. 



Asked if Japan was still advocating for Pakistan's adherence to the 

nuclear test-ban treaty (CTBT) as a condition for resuming aid 

despite a U.S. refusal to ratify it, Numata said Japan was looking 

forward for tangible progress by Pakistan in resolving matters 

relating to nuclear proliferation. 



''We do look forward to tangible progress in matters relating to 

nuclear proliferation, particularly in the wake of the fact that you 

have a long-standing problem with your neighbor which has assumed 

nuclear dimensions,'' he said. 



Numata said Japan views the CTBT as a very important step on global 

disarmament and the U.S. refusal to ratify the CTBT was an area in 

which ''we do not see eye to eye with the United States.'' 



He urged Pakistan to sign the CTBT as early as possible since it 

would lead to a resumption of Japanese economic aid. 

- -----------------



Study finds J&J coated stent completely effective



CHICAGO, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Researchers reported on Tuesday that an 

antibiotic-coated stent developed by Johnson & Johnson to prop open 

clogged arteries completely prevented reclogging during a seven-month 

period, and doctors said it could radically change the treatment of 

coronary artery disease. 



The news sent shares of J&J, a component of the Dow Jones industrial 

average, up more than 6 percent. Stock prices for rival medical 

device makers fell on the news. 



Stents, which are tiny metal tubes used to prop open clogged 

arteries, often narrow from scar tissue that develops after insertion 

of the devices. Different companies are coating stents with various 

drugs in an effort to block growth of the scar tissue and, thereby, 

remove the need for surgeons to repeat the procedures. 



"This trial and this device could revolutionize the treatment of 

coronary artery disease," said Charles Davidson,  director of cardiac 

catheterization at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago. 



Results of the so-called RAVEL study of the J&J device, which 

involved 238 patients in 19 centers across Europe and Latin America, 

were presented on Tuesday at the European Society of Cardiology 

Annual Congress in Stockholm. 



Davidson, who is participating in a U.S. trial of the device, said 

that by reducing the threat of renewed blocking, or restenosis, 

physicians will more likely choose stents for treatment of patients 

who are at high risk of requiring a repeat procedure. He said 

physicians frequently recommend coronary bypass surgery for high-risk 

patients, who include diabetics, people with smaller arteries, and 

people who have long-sections of blocked arteries. Currently, about 

1.5 million stents are implanted each year, said Davidson. 



The device, produced by J&J's Cordis unit, prevented restenosis for 

up to 210 days after implantation in patients with stable or unstable 

angina -- chest pains that often precede a heart attack. 



The results from the study show that J&J's drug-coated stent had a 

significant advantage over normal metal stents, where 26 percent of 

patients experienced restenosis. 



Brian Firth, a physician and vice president of medical affairs and 

worldwide health economics for Cordis, said the study's results would 

help speed the product's arrival on the market. "The better the data, 

the better your chances of getting that approved in a timely 

fashion," Firth said in an interview. 



The device releases the drug sirolimus, a naturally occurring 

antibiotic, preventing excess tissue from forming after a stent is 

placed in the body. 



"While most investors were anticipating the data would be favorable 

for coated stents, a zero rate of restenosis is better than expected 

and will likely result in rapid uptake of coated stents once launched 

in Europe (in) early 2002, and the United States (in) early 2003," 

said Merrill Lynch analyst Dan Lemaitre. 



"AMAZING DATA" 



"It's amazing data," said Lehman Brothers analyst David Gruber. "Zero 

percent restenosis is a big deal." Gruber said if follow-up data 

confirms the initial findings, this "establishes a high hurdle for 

competitive stents." 



Investors cheered the news, sending Johnson & Johnson stock up $3.30 

to $56.06, close to its all-time high of $57.50, in closing trade. It 

was one of the biggest percentage gainers on the New York Stock 

Exchange. Shares of medical device coatings maker SurModics Inc. 

<SRDX.O>, which is in a pact with Cordis for stent-coating 

technology, rose $7.57, or 16.24 percent, to $54.17 on the Nasdaq. 



Shares of potential competitors, Novoste Corp. <NOVT.O>, Guidant 

Corp. <GDT.N> and Angiotech Pharmaceuticals Inc. <ANP.TO> <ANPI.O>, 

fell on Tuesday, as the new data on J&J's experimental stent 

indicated it could pose a stiff challenge. 



"I would say today's stock movement represents what is truly great 

data from J&J and a game-changing device in the field of 

interventional cardiology," said Glenn Novarro of CS First Boston. 



For competitors, Gruber said the news raises the bar for others 

studying different drug coating compounds on stents. "Zero restenosis 

reinforces the first-in competitive advantage," he said. 



Shares of Novoste, a Norcross, Georgia-based maker of a radiation-

based treatment for clogged arteries, plunged $8.23 to $10.02, or 

45.1 percent. Shares of Angiotech, a Canadian biotech company which 

licenses its anti-cancer drug paclitaxel to Cook Inc. for use in 

experimental, drug-coated stents, fell $11.55 to $45.50, or 20.25 

percent, both on Nasdaq. 



Guidant, a medical device firm that is to be the sole distributor of 

Cook's paclitaxel coated stents, also saw its stock fall 3.52 

percent, to $34.85. 



STENT MARKET SEEN DOUBLING IN SIZE BY 2004 



Industry analysts said the stent market, currently $2.3 billion, 

could easily double in size in the next three to four years as 

clinicians convert to coated stents that will fetch a hefty premium 

over bare metal stents. 



Gruber projects J&J will be able to charge $2,100 to $2,200 per 

device, compared with the current $1,200 for a bare metal stent. 

Other analysts put the figure as high as $3,000. 



"We have not set a price," Firth said of the price speculation. "The 

first step was to see how well it worked. That has different 

implications about what value we properly place on this device," he 

said. 



Firth said he has had initial meetings with the Center for Medicare 

and Medicaid regarding reimbursement of the new stent and will 

continue to do so as the company wends its way through the regulatory 

processes.



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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:14:25 +0100

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Subject: medical misadventures



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Bill,

    I find that I can't agree with your suggestion that because event =

occur in the medical applications of radiation and radioactive material =

that these events are indicative of laxity on the part of our colleagues =

in this area.  Within the nuclear industry there are ongoing efforts to =

highlight the lessons we can learn from the events that continue to =

occur.  Does this indicate a lack of diligence on our part?  We can only =

take heart from our obvious desire to improve and use formal and =

informal routes (such as Radsafe) to do what we can to highlight these =

events.  What I would like to know is if, as you suggested, these events =

are not widely promulgated through the medical profession.  As you so =

rightly pointed out we should endevour to make everyone aware of the =

lessons that can be learnt.



Best Regards

            Julian Ginniver



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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:35:32 -0500

From: "Eric S. Pittman" <e-pittman@northwestern.edu>

Subject: Gloves For NaI



Could someone help me by recommending a good disposable glove, other than 

latex for obvious reasons, for work with NaI?



Thanks

Eric







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Health Physics

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Fax (312) 503-0547

Northwestern University

Office Of Research Safety

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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 07:18:16 -0400

From: William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

Subject: Re: medical misadventures



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Virtually every major event at a power reactor is reviewed by other

power reactors to determine whether they are vulnerable to a simlar

event, and corrective actions are taken, as appropriate.  I don't see

that happening in the medical hp community.  Informal information

exchange is important, but you should also have procedures that assure

documented reviews of key events.



I didn't intend to imply laxity, except for those who claim, "It's not

my job.", or "I don't check the calculations, I just sign off on them!"



In the power reactor industry, this would be considered an "opportunity

for improvement."  And, yes, "I'm here to help you."



The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

It's not about dose, it's about trust.



Bill Lipton

liptonw@dteenergy.com



julian ginniver wrote:



> Bill,    I find that I can't agree with your suggestion that because

> event occur in the medical applications of radiation and radioactive

> material that these events are indicative of laxity on the part of our

> colleagues in this area.  Within the nuclear industry there are

> ongoing efforts to highlight the lessons we can learn from the events

> that continue to occur.  Does this indicate a lack of diligence on our

> part?  We can only take heart from our obvious desire to improve and

> use formal and informal routes (such as Radsafe) to do what we can to

> highlight these events.  What I would like to know is if, as you

> suggested, these events are not widely promulgated through the medical

> profession.  As you so rightly pointed out we should endevour to make

> everyone aware of the lessons that can be learnt. Best

> Regards            Julian Ginniver



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Virtually every major event at a power reactor is reviewed by other power

reactors to determine whether they are vulnerable to a simlar event, and

corrective actions are taken, as appropriate.&nbsp; I don't see that happening

in the medical hp community.&nbsp; Informal information exchange is important,

but you should also have procedures that assure documented reviews of key

events.

<p>I didn't intend to imply laxity, except for those who claim, "It's not

my job.", or "I don't check the calculations, I just sign off on them!"

<p>In the power reactor industry, this would be considered an "opportunity

for improvement."&nbsp; And, yes, "I'm here to help you."

<p>The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

<br>It's not about dose, it's about trust.

<p>Bill Lipton

<br>liptonw@dteenergy.com

<p>julian ginniver wrote:

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<font size=-1>Bill,</font><font size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

I find that I can't agree with your suggestion that because event occur

in the medical applications of radiation and radioactive material that

these events are indicative of laxity on the part of our colleagues in

this area.&nbsp; Within the nuclear industry there are ongoing efforts

to highlight the lessons we can learn from the events that continue to

occur.&nbsp; Does this indicate a lack of diligence on our part?&nbsp;

We can only take heart from our obvious desire to improve and use formal

and informal routes (such as Radsafe) to do what we can to highlight these

events.&nbsp; What I would like to know is if, as you suggested, these

events are not widely promulgated through the medical profession.&nbsp;

As you so rightly pointed out we should endevour to make everyone aware

of the lessons that can be learnt.</font>&nbsp;<font size=-1>Best Regards</font><font size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Julian Ginniver</font></blockquote>



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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:50:51 -0400 

From: Reno_Fabii@doh.state.fl.us

Subject: TLD Cage



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I run the environmental TLD program for the state of Florida.

The vendor who supplies our plastic "cages" ( Sunstate Environmental

Products) has gone out of business.

Does anyone know of another company who has a similiar product?



Thanks,

Reno



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Reno Fabii

ES II, Bureau of Radiation Control

(407) 297 - 2095    SunCom:326-2095

FAX:(407) 297-2085

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I run the environmental TLD program =

for the state of Florida.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The vendor who supplies our plastic =

&quot;cages&quot; ( Sunstate Environmental Products) has gone out of =

business.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Does anyone know of another company =

who has a similiar product?</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Reno</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Reno Fabii</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">ES II, Bureau of Radiation =

Control</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">(407) 297 - 2095&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

SunCom:326-2095</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">FAX:(407) 297-2085</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">reno_fabii@doh.state.fl.us</FONT>

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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:26:52 -0500

From: "Eric S. Pittman" <e-pittman@northwestern.edu>

Subject: Gloves for NaI



Thank you to everyone that responded to my query yesterday.  I appreciate it.



Eric







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Health Physics

e-pittman@northwestern.edu

Phone (312) 503-1929

Fax (312) 503-0547

Northwestern University

Office Of Research Safety

B-106 Ward Building, W223

303 East Chicago Ave.

Chicago, IL 60611



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