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Re: What do you think of this idea?
I would also include in your list USEPA's emergency response teams!
Also, drilling would probable end up moving debris around and weaken any possible pockets.
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Tom Savin
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:03:17
Lloyd Kirk wrote:
>I would appreciate your thoughts on this. I have been trying to pass this
>idea on for days with no luck. Maybe someone else can help. I know it has
>nothing to do with rad, but I thought someone might have a FEMA connection
>or better yet an logistics connection on location. Too much red tape with
>FEMA.
>Your thoughts would be apprecited.
>
>Rescue Proposal of Possible Survivors or Retrieval of Victims
>
>I would like to share with you an idea that might retrieve possible
>survivors or victims from the tragedy in New York.
>
>It is obvious the 6000 victims are beneath or in the rubble. As in the OKC
>bombing of the Murrah building pockets were found of people trying to
>scratch their way out due to lack of water or air. With the 6 stories
>basement I am sure there are pockets underground with possible survivors.
>
>I plead you pass the following ideas to FEMA and all the other rescue people
>to see if this is a viable idea. Please do not let this get caught up in
>red tape because what I have to share can be done with available resources.
>
>You have limited space and also other buildings that are dangerous to work
>around which limits the retrieval of debris. As in Oklahoma City it was
>terrible waiting for the news that your loved one was missing knowing really
>they were dead but still hanging on to the hope that they were alive. My
>heart goes out to everyone touched by this disaster.
>
>
>This is want I propose:
>
>I. Air & Water to people possibly trapped below
>A. Horizontal drill 1”-4” holes to possible pockets below ground. This can
>be done 100’-1000’ from ground zero. Areas can be confirmed using existing
>Geophysical technologies, infrared, GPR, acoustical, resistivity.
>B. Monitor while drilling with existing technologies, fiber optics,
>infrared, sound, measurement while drilling, etc.
>C. Map areas cross referencing as builts vs. monitoring technology.
>D. Vertical drilling can also be done.
>E. Use of oilfield, geophysical and coal mining technology will allow you to
>start this task almost immediately.
>
>II. Excavation:
>A. To speed up the process, horizontal drill 4’-8’ holes from a safe
>distance to the basement area.
>B. Install industrial conveyor belts below ground to remove debris at a
>quicker pace. This could be done from several points 100’ -1000’ away from
>ground zero.
>C. Could do the same on the surface transferring debris to dump trucks.
>Would also help in the verification process of what debris needs to be kept
>as evidence and what needs to be discarded.
>
>III. Sources of Help
>A. Mining Industry
>B. Drilling Companies
>C. National Labs
>D. Oklahoma experience
>E. Construction companies
>F. Geophysical companies
>G. NASA
>
>
>We have the technology, we have the equipment, please utilize this idea to
>retrieve people that I pray are still alive but also to retrieve the bodies
>of those who are not so their loved ones can have closure.
>
>God Bless You,
>
>Lloyd
>
>
>
>
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