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RE: abc news
To any whom may give a flying yoohoo:It takes 8700 microwatt seconds per square centimeter of UV radiation at incident energies of 253.7 to completely destroy Bacillius anthracis.(i.e. yesterday's discussion)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) [mailto:jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:11 AM
To: Franz Schoenhofer; Norman Cohen; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: RE: abc news
Franz,
I appreciate your concern, but I think that some of the stuff Norm, and
others, put on this list server are really funny at times. As Winston
Churchill said, "In my behalf you cannot deal with the most serious things
in the world unless you also understand the most amusing."
-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
3050 Traymore Lane
Bowie, MD 20715-2024
E-mail: jenday1@email.msn.com (H)
-----Original Message-----
From: Franz Schoenhofer [mailto:franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:02 PM
To: Norman Cohen; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: Re: abc news
Private:
Franz Schoenhofer
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Vienna, AUSTRIA
Phone: -43 699 11681319
e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@chello.at
Office:
MR Dr. Franz Schoenhofer
Federal Ministry for Agriculture, Forestry, Environment and Water Management
Dep. I/8U, Radiation Protection
Radetzkystr. 2
A-1031 Vienna, AUSTRIA
phone: +43-1-71100-4458
fax: +43-1-7122331
e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@bmu.gv.at
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Norman Cohen <ncohen12@HOME.COM>
An: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Datum: Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2001 00:13
Betreff: abc news
>Dear Radsafers,
>I answered your comments off-list as to not make it too hard on your
>delete keys, and to not be the one accused of generating too many
>emails. Thanks for the suggestions and input.
>
>peace
>norm
>
>--
>Coalition for Peace and Justice and the UNPLUG Salem Campaign; 321 Barr
>Ave., Linwood, NJ 08221; 609-601-8537 or 609-601-8583 (8583: fax, answer
>machine); ncohen12@home.com UNPLUG SALEM WEBSITE:
>http://www.unplugsalem.org/ COALITION FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE WEBSITE:
>http:/www.coalitionforpeaceandjustice.org The Coalition for Peace and
>Justice is a chapter of Peace Action.
>"First they ignore you; Then they laugh at you; Then they fight you;
>Then you win. (Gandhi) "Why walk when you can fly?" (Mary Chapin
>Carpenter)
I have noticed that quite a few RADSAFErs have fallen into the trap of
Norman Cohen again. For those, who have subscribed to RADSAFE not so long
ago I can mention that Norman Cohen has fooled the RADSAFE community already
some time ago, by posting "questions", pretending to be interested in a
scientific approach and then gradually coming out with his anti-nuclear and
anti-radiation opinions. I am sure to remember correctly that somebody on
RADSAFE commented that he boasted at anti-nuclear websites about his
disputes with the pro-nuclears at RADSAFE. He is obviously making his living
with his anti-nuclear agitation - I have accused him for doing so and he has
not denied it. I comment on RADSAFE at home from my private computer at my
own costs and in my spare time (it is 1:25 am in Austria right now) - he has
not denied that he earns money by doing so when I put this accusation
forward.
The shit - yes, I use deliberately this four letter word - which he posted
on RADSAFE is just one case among hundreds of other idiotic newspaper
articles. I could send dozens of similar ones to RADSAFE - even if Norman
would pay me generously for the translation I would not bother you with it.
I am not impressed by any article from San Francisco, London, Adelaide,
Beijing and least from Austria. We have a proverb in German: "He lies like
it had been printed". This is true not only for the lowest class papers, but
as well for the so-called highly reputaded papers, not to talk about TV.
Norman puts forward a newspaper article, as if it were the bible -
containing the truth, the truth and nothing as the truth. Next he questions
the news about the thickness of a containment and repeats silly remarks on
very small details. (Thank you Jaro for the very informative information!)
I have also fallen into his trap before, I really tried to explain patiently
some basic knowledge - without any result. He is a stubborn activist, who
makes his money with his agitation - or did nobody read his advertisments at
the end of his "contributions"? Nobody reasonably can oppose "peace" - but
this is converted into anti-nuclear movements.
Now we have the ultimate generosity: He is taking discussions to private
mail to save bandwidth. I think, the better way to save bandwidth would be
that he would not post to RADSAFE.
Franz
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