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RE: NCI and Hudson Riverkeepers Request Emergency Shutdown of IP 2/3
Let us not forget the cost of construction of cooling towere , the risks to builders i.e. deaths attributed to cooling tower construction , and the creation of a lovely moist and warm invironment for legionaire's desease.(If I am not mistaken it was a cooling tower which provided the breeding ground for the big epidemic which killed several veterans way back when.) Also we must take into account........THEY ARE FISH! MOST OF US EAT THEM.....REMEMBER? I say we need to look into this "Ronald McDonald' clown. From what I've heard he is responsible for killing millions of fish every year and turning them into a thing called a 'McFish Sandwich'. Sounds kinda fishy to me!
Floyd Flanigan
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From: DWhitfil@KDHE.STATE.KS.US [mailto:DWhitfil@KDHE.STATE.KS.US]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:06 PM
To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: Re: NCI and Hudson Riverkeepers Request Emergency Shutdown of
IP 2/3
Well I'd hate to ask them how this compares to other fish kills that occur
throughout the year around the US. Oh... <slap>... I can't resort to that
logic thing here can I?
My opinions only...
DJWhitfill
"Raymond A. Hoover"
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11/15/01 03:59 PM
Please respond to
"Raymond A. Hoover"
You know, having been raised less than 2 miles from Indian Point, I can
remember having discussions about where to go to get the biggest fish. I
know (or rather used to know) guys who claim to have seen sturgeon in the
canal that were at least 6 feet long. I can't say I can remember anyone
ever having commented on fish kills though.
>From: Tim <tstead@ntirs.org>
>Reply-To: Tim <tstead@ntirs.org>
>To: Norman Cohen <ncohen12@HOME.COM>, "radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu"
><radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
>Subject: Re: NCI and Hudson Riverkeepers Request Emergency Shutdown of IP
>2/3
>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:15:33 -0800 (PST)
>
>Norm, these comments are not directed to you but are
>just thoughts of mine.
>
>I did read about half of this petition and had to stop
>because I got fed up. One sentence struck me as odd:
>"Security of spent fuel has never been demonstrated at
>Indian Point." Has any spent fuel ever been stolen?
>No? Isn't that kind of demonstrating security of
>spent fuel?
>
>In any event, I understand the reasoning behind this
>sort of petition: people are scared that nuclear
>plants are not 100% safe against any and all
>perceived, imagined, or possible terrorist threats.
>You know what? Nothing in the world is - not even
>NORAD.
>
>Norm, I have an honest question for you. Will you or
>have you altered your life in any way since Sept. 11
>to make you any less vulnerable to terrorist attacks?
>Do you still leave your house and go to malls? Do you
>still go to sporting events? Do you still drive over
>bridges or in tunnels? If you never did any of these
>things, will you make a concious effort not to do them
>in the future?
>
>I challenge ANYBODY who feels that nuclear plants
>should be shut down simply because they are not 100%
>terrorist-proof to justify why we should not use that
>same reason...no....excuse to abolish everything in
>our society that is not also 100% terrorist-proof. If
>anti-nukers are really concerned about the safety of
>the public then why are no environmental groups
>calling for the immediate emergency closure of all
>sports stadiums and complexes because they too are not
>100% terrorist-proof?
>
>If we were to curtail everthing in our lives that are
>not perfectly 100% safe then we would not be able to
>live on this planet. Nuclear plants are not perfect
>but I am here to tell you that they are more secure
>and less vulnerable to terrorist attack than many,
>many other things in our lives that anti-nukers find
>no fault with. That is a major vertigo of priorities.
>
>As far as the fish, I didn't get that far but I would
>imagine that the same concerns voiced in the petition
>were already discussed and addressed years ago when
>the plant was being built.
>
>Don't get me wrong, security at nuclear plants is a
>big issue and if there are gates being left open or
>security guards letting unbadged people in the plant
>then that needs to be dealt with harshly. However, if
>we are not prepared to turn the roofs of shopping
>malls and chemical plants into SAM sites, then why the
>emergent petition about Indian Point? Could it be
>that this petition is just another excuse to shut down
>a nuclear plant and not a real and honest concern?
>
>As I write this email, I am listening to radio reports
>of a plane crashing in Queens, NY. I wonder if it was
>a terrorist attack or not - terrorists have used
>planes for decades. Why are some people ready to shut
>down 20% of this nation's electrical generating
>capacity because of perceived threats to facilities
>that have never before suffered such an attack but we
>cheer and encourage people to fly on airplanes that
>have been instruments of terror for decades?
>
>I tried to keep a civil, nonconfrontational tone
>through this message. If I failed in any way, please
>accept my apologies, Norm.
>
>Regards,
>Timothy C. Steadham, P.E.
>
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