Re: fishkills

[StevenFrey@AOL.COM]

Dear Norm -


It looks like you don't understand the purpose of RADSAFE. This forum is an information-exchange center for the professional practice of health physics, not a playground for the attention-obsessed for starting psychobabble peeing contests. Passive-aggressiveness doesn't count as a credential for earning respect in here. That is true no matter how much one believes fervency trumps science. 


Tortured twisting of reality to prove that nuclear power is too dangerous has the look and smell of neurosis. Cases in point are your recent issues of 'explosion-prone spent fuel shipments' and 'fishkills'. The first case is of course flat-out false. The second is merely contradictory: you claim that cool water and warm water are BOTH bad for fish. Notwithstanding that if fish could talk they would almost certainly tell you differently. But until you learn their language, perhaps you can show us the way by not using your own shower or ice maker from now on. Spare the waterways from your own hot and cold water discharges. The world usually takes notice of a noble example.


If you cannot handle any of us pressing you on your foundationless and even facetious anti-nuclear claims as not being worthy of serious discourse, perhaps you should try other forums. There is always room for alarmists in society. But not here.


We await inspiring JPGs of you removing your hot water heater and ice maker for the good of the fish.


Steve Frey

(Opinion my own)


In a message dated 11/16/01 7:46:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, ncohen12@HOME.COM writes:



> Dear Steve,
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> . I know you don't like me, or people who oppose nuclear power. You've made that quite clear in postings both to this list and privately to me. . But I refuse to sit here and allow you to call me a liar. I gave you the NIRS website: www.nirs.org. About halfway down is the link to the entire Liscenced To Kill report. All the information is in there, with footnotes. You can also check the websites for the Delaware Riverkeeper Network (www.delawareriverkeepernetwork.org) and for Clean Ocean Action
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> (www.cleanoceanaction.org) for additional info. The Delaware Riverkeepers have been the front line organization on the fight to get Salem 1/2 to build cooling towers. THEY ARE NOT ANTI-NUKE, so maybe you'll respect their information.
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> As far as the US Fish and Wildlife figures, they were reported by both PSEG and the NJ DEP during the process whereby PSEG's permit was renewed by the DEP. Salem Units 1/2 use billions of gallons of Delaware Bay water to cool the nukes in their once-thru system. This system kills BILLIONs of fish and other marine life.
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> No one argues about that FACT. They argument is over (1) economics and (2) whether there is a significant effect to the environment.
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>   Now Steve, I'm human, and so I'm sure I've occasionally made mistakes in what information I've posted. The "South Anna" mistake comes to mind. But I, and the UNPLUG Salem Campaign, have built a reputation for honesty, and I won't have that reputation harmed by your flames.
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>   Email Bob Fretz of the NRC: mailto:rxf@NRC.gov; email Jill Lipoti at the NJ Bureau of Nuclear Engineering
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> mailto:jlipoti@dep.state.nj.us - ask these people what they think of me. Ask them if I've ever lied to them.
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> Lets keep the conversation civil.
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> peace,
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> norm