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Re: [Know_Nukes] Low Radiation Doses May Pose Hi...



>From: magnu96196@aol.com



>In a message dated 12/15/01 6:40:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>jim_hoerner@hotmail.com writes:



> > I would not be at all surprised if the press misquoted the study.  Can 

>you

> > show that to me?



I guess not.  Nothing new there.





>Jim, Jim, Jim,



>    You're the one that misquoted, misread, assumed, were overly expert, 

>and went off half cocked.    The article did not say "20 centigray alpha" 

>as you claim here



Magnu, Magnu, Magnu,



Being wrong is fine.  If I am wrong, I will gladly admit it, and move on.  

You, on the otherhand, will never do that, and you apparently cannot read.  

Here is an exact quote of what you are referring to [my emphasis]:



"the RESEARCHERS BEAMED A SINGLE ALPHA particle through

the nuclei of randomly selected cells growing in petri

dishes. THE RADIATION WAS EQUAIVALENT TO A DOSE BELOW 20

CENTIGRAYS, a unit used in radiation measurement. Mine

workers and nuclear workers are occasionally exposed to

radiation doses similar to those used in the study,"



>    Which says nothing about alpha radiation, but only rad dose

>"equilavalent."



Although you may have had some experience in radiation safety, you 

apparently do not know the difference between dose and dose equivalent.  

Gray is not a unit of does equivalent.  Sieverts and rem are.  You should 

know this.



Please tell us, is 20 centigray alpha 400 rem or not?  It's yes, or no.



>    So, your all wet with this 400 rem  BS, and screwing up what the 

>authors

>were conveying and even what the reporter was saying.



So you say, so it must be true.



>    Nothing like trying to confuse everyone.



Magnu, I may be wrong on this one, and I don't mind.  At least I backed up 

my claims and provided references*.  You have failed to back up anything 

you've ever said.  This post of yours that I am replying to for some futile 

reason is just another example.



>    Now, are you sorry for attempting to confuse everyone and debunk some 

>very valid research?



Heck no, sir.  The article says 20 centigray alphas.  That's 400 rem.  They 

should have written it better if they wanted to be credible.



Even if they meant gamma dose equivalent, as you blindly and emptily claim, 

that's still 20 rem, an instantaneous factor of 100 greater than the average 

nuclear power plant worker gets in a year.  How about them apples?!



Magnu, Magnu, Magnu, just who's dosimeter is off scale?  You ARE the weakest 

link!  Goodbye.



Regards,

Jim



* here were my references

1. http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/fullbooks/075030670x/mouldch01.pdf

2. http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/fullbooks/075030670x/mouldch04.pdf

3. http://www.yale.edu/oehs/prgnancy.htm

4. http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q361.html

5. http://www.epa.gov/radiation/students/calculate.html

for my original post which can be found here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/doewatch/message/13289



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