RE: ARTICLE: Fallout likely caused 15,000 deaths

["Jacobus, John (OD/ORS)" <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>]

Jack,

I don't think you can compare the two.  Astronauts are accepting a risk when

they travel into space.  Members of the public near Yucca Mt are not.  The

facility will be built (I hope) without their acceptance of it.



-- John 



-----Original Message-----

From: Jack_Earley@RL.gov [mailto:Jack_Earley@RL.gov]

Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:38 PM

To: jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu; Jacobus, John (OD/ORS);

radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: RE: ARTICLE: Fallout likely caused 15,000 deaths





I have this bad habit of connecting various pieces and trying to see how

they fit together. So now we have J.J. Rozental's comment, "Problems

affecting protection and safety be promptly identified and corrected in a

manner commensurate with their importance," and wondering how that isn't a

contradiction of ALARA itself. And I see the 4 mrem/y limit for Yucca Mt and

compare it to the 50 rem/y limit for astronauts, and I'm pretty much left

just scratching my head. I think I'll just go catch my flight and hope for a

random solar flare.



Jack Earley

Radiological Engineer





-----Original Message-----

From: Jim Muckerheide [mailto:jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu]

Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:27 PM

To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); RadSafe

Subject: RE: ARTICLE: Fallout likely caused 15,000 deaths





What's true is that there were NO deaths. We just ignore the fact that

"late-effects," much less negligible late-effects, are NOT what people

consider to be "deaths and injuries from an accident" in any other arena -

EXCEPT for the "personal agenda" of the rad protectionists SOLELY INTENDED,

to defraud the public of $100s Billions!? Remember, the ICRP mafia set the

evac limits at Chernobyl at LESS THAN the AVG natural background level of

Norway, far below "high background" areas. That has been shown to have

killed thousands. But this rad pro mafia still sticks the public with a 4

mrem/year limit at Yucca Mt., and in ground water! Still claims to kill

AEC/DOE workers with occupational doses; and the whole country with fallout.

It's not I that has to look in the mirror every morming and wonder about my

personal integrity!

 

Jim



	-----Original Message----- 

	From: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) [mailto:jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov] 

	Sent: Thu 07-Mar-02 12:39 PM 

	To: RadSafe 

	Cc: 

	Subject: RE: ARTICLE: Fallout likely caused 15,000 deaths

	

	



	Jim,

	My point is that you need to provide the correct information,

whether it

	meets your personal agenda or not.  When you go from a handful of

childhood

	thyroid cancers per decade to hundreds a year, that is a significant

	increase.  True, there were no deaths, but the number of cases is

cause for

	alarm.  Particularly when it could have been avoided. 

	

	-- John

	

	John Jacobus, MS

	Certified Health Physicist

	3050 Traymore Lane

	Bowie, MD  20715-2024

	

	E-mail:  jenday1@email.msn.com (H)     

	-----Original Message-----

	From: Jim Muckerheide [mailto:jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu]

	Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:27 PM

	To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

	Subject: RE: ARTICLE: Fallout likely caused 15,000 deaths

	

	

	John,

	

	Don't have time to go back to the numbers I sent to you before, but

it's

	like ~1 case out of  ~100,000  children exposed to Chernobyl!? 

	

	(maybe ~50-60,000 in one high-dose region; ~120,000 in another

moderately

	exposed region)

	

	And you'd call it...? :-)

	A DISASTER!?  

	

	(How about "Not as many as die from fossil fuel releases from a

power plant

	in normal operation!?" :-)

	

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