Re: Anti Nuke Hypocrisy and DDP Meeting

[hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net]

Members of CARE , Livermore's "Citizens Against a Radioactive Environment", also



fearmonger global warming from CO 2.



Counteracting both is our Doctors for Disaster Preparedness meeting 7/27 and

7/28 at the Sheraton Colorado Springs. Zebroski (Advanced Nuclear Reactors),

Wood (LLNL Dir), Baliunas and Soon (ozone and CO2) and 16 others will speak and

respond to questions. All with scientific interest are welcome. Call

520-325-2680.



Hopefully, HPs will use scientific data rather than irrational fears to promote

nuclear power. CO 2 is an essential building block of plants,  the reason  more

enters the USA on prevailing winds than leaves the east coast ( increasing

forests).



PETITION     [Circulated by Frederick Seitz, Past Pres., Nat. Academy of

Sciences, USA, President Emeritus, Rockefeller University and volunteers without

commercial interest].



“We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement

that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any similar proposals.

The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the

advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.



There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide,

methane or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future,

cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the

Earth’s climate. Moreover there is substantial scientific evidence that

increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the

natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”

 [17,000  + signatures available at www.oism.org-pproject]



Howard Long



Randall_F_Brich@RL.GOV wrote:



> Just one question for comment: What proportion of antinuclear

> activists/sympathizers are also global warming caused by manmade greenhouse

> gases proponents?

>

> Randy Brich

> Richland, WA

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Vincent A King/KINGVA/CC01/INEEL/US [mailto:KINGVA@INEL.GOV]

> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 AM

> To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: Anti Nuke Hypocrisy

>

> As always, an excellent statement of valid points by Mr. Farber.

>

> It exposes the hypocrisy of the anti-nuclear mentality for what it is -

> political posturing by groups that want to APPEAR concerned for the welfare

> of the environment and humanity.  It doesn't matter that not a single life

> would be saved if they had their way, or that, in fact, lives would

> actually be lost, as Mr. Farber and others have pointed out.  It's all

> about image: as long as they can view themselves as "crusaders," they're

> happy; as long as others see them as "good guys," their work is done.  Why

> go to any extra trouble to actually THINK about the real results of their

> demands? It's easier to sit back and take pot-shots at those who are

> actively trying to develop technologies to help humankind, and more fun to

> invent witty slogans, bumper stickers, and posters.

>

> Ironically, although they portray nuclear supporters as "owned" by the

> industry, it's the anti-nukes who concentrate on the spin game and whose

> positions are dictated by political correctness instead of hard-nosed,

> factual analysis.  (For me, the image comes to mind of shallow, "good old

> boy" politicians.  I'm sure they would be "shocked and outraged.")

>

> The comment "why irradiate the poor beans?" is a perfect example of why

> reasoned discussion doesn't work in dealing with these groups:  they don't

> see a morally neutral technology with controllable risks that can be used

> to benefit mankind.  Their views are based on the old Disney

> "genie-out-of-the-bottle" imagery, and they see radiation, and anything or

> anyone associated with it, as an evil that must be wiped out.  The fact

> that radiation and nuclear processes (e.g., solar energy) are as natural

> and ubiquitous in our environment as anything else eludes them.

>

> Vincent King,

> Idaho Falls

>

> ****************************************************************************

> ***

> Stewar Farber wrote:

>

> ...Many antinuclear groups like to claim to be protecting public health

> while their actions end up resulting in excess morbidity and mortality when

> risker alternative technologies are employed, or actions are not taken

> which need to be taken for the greater good.

>

> The pro and anti nuclear technologies "debate" isn't just an academic

> exercise. Real people die or are malnourished when food fails to reach

> hungry people in the third world...

>

> Stewart Farber

>

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