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Re: detecting medical isotopes at airport security



How would you assure that everyone complies without a regulation?



The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

It's not about dose, it's about trust.

Curies forever.



Bill Lipton

liptonw@dteenergy.com



SiegelB@mir.wustl.edu wrote:



> Agree completely.  Our technical staff explain our procedures in moderate

> detail to all of our patients.  We do not shy away from the use of the

> words "radiation" and "radioactive"in discussions with our patients.  We

> provide written instructions to all patients receiving I-131, including

> those where it is not required by 10 CFR 35.75.  Over the years we have

> variably provided pamphlets about nuclear medicine generally or about

> specific tests.  The proposed one-pager would be fine.

>

> However, this does not need to be an NRC regulation, and that is what I was

> reacting to initially.

>

> BAS

> siegelb@mir.wustl.edu

>

>

>                       "Ted Rockwell"

>                       <tedrock@starpowe        To:       "Flood, John" <FloodJR@NV.DOE.GOV>, <SiegelB@MIR.WUSTL.EDU>, "William V

>                       r.net>                    Lipton" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>

>                                                cc:       "Carol Marcus" <csmarcus@ucla.edu>, <knwachter@juno.com>,

>                       11/24/03 10:53 AM         <owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu>, <radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu>

>                                                Subject:  RE: detecting medical isotopes at airport security

>

>

> Sounds reasonable to me.  Also, I think it's VERY important that everybody

> who gets the benefit of nuclear medicine be made to understand that

> radioactivity has been injected into his/her body; that this will be a

> benefit, not a harm; that the body already had a great deal of natural

> radioactivity in it, that this is a natural part of all life.

>

> Why do we miss this perfect opportunity to help fight radiophobia?  People

> have already shown they are ready to accept x-rays.  Here's another step we

> can and should take for public education.  A carefully worded one-pager

> should do it.

>

> Who is willing to draft such a statement for physicians?

>

> Ted Rockwell

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu

> [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu]On Behalf Of Flood, John

> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:33 AM

> To: 'SiegelB@MIR.WUSTL.EDU'; William V Lipton

> Cc: Carol Marcus; knwachter@juno.com; owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu;

> radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu

> Subject: RE: detecting medical isotopes at airport security

>

> The gate-mounted alarm systems at the Nevada Test Site are set off

> frequently by nuclear medicine patients (including me last year).  What is

> surprising is that a substantial fraction, perhaps one third, of those

> patients are not aware that radioactive material was used in the tests.

> That makes life more difficult for everyone involved - the patient, the

> security staff at the gate, and everyone trying to enter the site at the

> time of the alarm.  All of the fussing could be minimized if the medical

> staff would simply tell the patient about the radioactivity and the

> possibility of setting off alarms.  I see no reason why the physician

> ordering the test can't explain the test to the patient - certainly the

> patient has a right to know.  And I don't see where this would increase the

> cost of providing medical care.

>

> Bob Flood

> Nevada Test Site Dosimetry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: SiegelB@MIR.WUSTL.EDU [mailto:SiegelB@MIR.WUSTL.EDU]

> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:33 AM

> To: William V Lipton

> Cc: Carol Marcus; knwachter@juno.com; owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu;

> radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu

> Subject: Re: detecting medical isotopes at airport security

>

> How much are you willing to pay per nuclear medicine procedure for the

> added cost of providing this information to all patients?  Since this

> appears to be a very small problem indeed, the proposed solution seems a

> bit over the top.

>

> Note that revised 10 CFR 35.75 actually was a rule that resulted in

> substantial medical care cost savings, since formerly many of the patients

> affected by this rule were hospitalized for 2-3 days to protect members of

> the general public from a radiation hazard.  The cost of providing these

> patients with oral and written instructions is offset by the costs saved,

> but this would not apply to the millions of other patients who have nuclear

> medicine procedures each year.

>

> Barry A. Siegel, MD

> siegelb@mir.wustl.edu

>

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